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    <title>gerts Tracker</title>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:58:28 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!</title>
      <link>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/ESXi-Discussions/vSphere-Web-Client-is-so-bad-that-my-experience-managing-and/m-p/922229#M77870</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;That would be really great. But I have my doubts whether it's true. Where do you have the information from?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2015 07:46:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>gerts</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-01-08T07:46:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!</title>
      <link>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/ESXi-Discussions/vSphere-Web-Client-is-so-bad-that-my-experience-managing-and/m-p/922141#M77782</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;In addition: I'm wondering what has to happen before you change your mind and listen to customers? A big group moving away from VMware? (often against their will). A few years ago the situation was maybe different. But the alternatives now are also getting always better.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:07:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>gerts</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-09-10T09:07:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!</title>
      <link>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/ESXi-Discussions/vSphere-Web-Client-is-so-bad-that-my-experience-managing-and/m-p/922140#M77781</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P style="margin-bottom: .0001pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;These are the kind of things with which you lose so much time and that takes frustration to a high point during a busy day (like most days). At those points you start hating a product. And that is the explanation of course for the numerous complaints here in this threat.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt; Vmware please stop pushing this webclient down the throat of your customers and just bring back the C# client. Isn't it clear enough by now that people don't want Flash webclient? Even if you try to enhance it. A flash client will never work comfortably for an admin. Not to mention the security bugs that flash has had (and will possibly have in the future). Disabling features in the C# client that are deliberately done to force people to use webclient (eg edit settings when it’s v10) feels just so wrong for a customer that it gets frustrating. Is that so hard to understand?&lt;SPAN class="apple-converted-space"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;Just show some respect to customers who paid thousands and thousands of dollars for a vSphere infrastructure and please listen to what we are saying. Are you going to continue claiming that you listen to customers and ignore what they are asking for? Isn't it clear enough by now?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;Two reasons that are given (by an employee) for VMware to continue this web development is&lt;SPAN class="apple-converted-space"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;(1) Some (but I assume very few) of the bigger customers have problems with the C# client because of the amount of hosts and/or VMs,&lt;SPAN class="apple-converted-space"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;(2) developing both a web and a C# client is generating too high dev costs&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;(3) Linux and Mac users can't use the C# client which is only for Windows.&lt;SPAN class="apple-converted-space"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;About (1): Then why not just fix the problem with the C# (for the large deployments) or find another solution for them.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;About (2): Just drop the webclient and stop forcing people to using something they don't want. Then there is only left the dev for the C#&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;About (3): Even in an SMB environment the vSphere client is installed on a Windows Remote desktop Admin-Tools server and an admin logs into that server to use the client. If they don't do that they can even just run a local VM and use that to run the vSphere C# client. So that is no point I'm sure.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;For me it's the way you guys handle this problem hard to understand and you are making a capital mistake which will cost you market share. So many people will be encouraged more than before to start looking at alternatives.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt; &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;"&gt;I think the only way to ever get an acceptable webclient is building it over again from the ground up and use for example HTML5. Even then it will be hard but not impossible. I have been a vmware/vSphere fan for many years and foundationally it's still a good product. But the way this webclient is pushed ruins it all for me and so many others. Proof is all these people that take the time to post in this thread.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:05:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>gerts</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-09-10T09:05:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!</title>
      <link>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/ESXi-Discussions/vSphere-Web-Client-is-so-bad-that-my-experience-managing-and/m-p/922036#M77677</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;We (and I know a few others too) are even not moving to version 10 just because they can no longer be managed by the client. I think it's a major mistake that VMware made this decision and doesn't seem to be listeing to what customers are sayng about it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Is anyone from VMware reading along? Can someone do the effort to post a reaction? What are the plans for the future in this regard? For me it's the biggest downside of the vSphere solution at this moment.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2014 08:35:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>gerts</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-19T08:35:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!</title>
      <link>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/ESXi-Discussions/vSphere-Web-Client-is-so-bad-that-my-experience-managing-and/m-p/922029#M77670</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I fully agree. I can see a reason to have a webclient to create a portal for a user that has delegated access to one or more VMs. Even for monitoring the environment from an operational point of view. But to do the main management of your VMs as an admin on a day-to-day basis you need either a client or a really fast responding webclient (which this one is not). The vSphere client isn't blazing fast either but at least it feels more comfortable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Since I am not the only one saying this I hope VMware will listen to what customers are saying and will make the right decisions. The options I see are:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- either find a way to make the websclient super-responsive and as comfortable as a desktopclient&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- or go for the desktop client again &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;- or start developing for both clients again&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:26:16 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>gerts</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-06-05T15:26:16Z</dc:date>
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