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    <title>topic Re: Things I like and dislike on the new Orchestrator 7.1 in VMware Aria Automation Orchestrator Discussions</title>
    <link>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Aria-Automation/Things-I-like-and-dislike-on-the-new-Orchestrator-7-1/m-p/2728529#M23912</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the feedback.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't see it as a negative; most of the points sound like something we could (and should) try to address in the future releases.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 20:31:23 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>iiliev</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-10-03T20:31:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Things I like and dislike on the new Orchestrator 7.1</title>
      <link>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Aria-Automation/Things-I-like-and-dislike-on-the-new-Orchestrator-7-1/m-p/2728528#M23911</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;In the VRO Release Notes is everytime written, that feedback is appreciated in the forum so ...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Well this should be a "first impression" after now two weeks of usage.&lt;BR /&gt;I "updated" a 5.5.3 Windows vCenter Orchestrator to vRealize Orchestrator 7.1 Appliance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A few information that I asked before the "update": &lt;A _jive_internal="true" href="https://communities.vmware.com/thread/542417"&gt;https://communities.vmware.com/thread/542417&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here we go:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;1) (Dislike) upgrade documentation &amp;amp; migration tool&lt;BR /&gt;There is no real upgrade path document which describes how to upgrade or migrate to the new plattform in detail.&lt;BR /&gt;Somewhere i read about a configuration-migration "tool" which is included in the OVA. &lt;BR /&gt;So if you want to reuse the old Hostname and IP you have to deploy the OVA with an other IP one time to "download" this migration-tool.&lt;BR /&gt;Why is there no direct download of the .zip on the vmware website?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;2) (Bug?) First fails:&lt;BR /&gt;I read somewhere that vRO 7.1 is out - but on our Download Page under "My Products" was only 7.0.1.&lt;BR /&gt;After a SR I got a tip from an VMware employe and found the 7.1 OVA files.&lt;BR /&gt;If you deploy a fresh 7.1 OVA - the Update Page (Port 5480) displays an error (HTTP 404) when checking for updates.&lt;BR /&gt;Proxy and Networksettings should be correct ...&lt;BR /&gt;If you deploy a fresh 7.0.1 and update via update page to 7.1 - the updatecheck it is still working after the update.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;3) (Dislike) Import of migration-tool-export&lt;BR /&gt;After running the migration-Tool, exporting all Workflows, ressources and so on - the import for the certificate (Company CA signed) and passwordencryptor.key on the new Orchestrator OVA fucked it totally up.&lt;BR /&gt;Pages were not loading correctly, everywhere are red errors on the page and so on.&lt;BR /&gt;Even after reconfiguration of the database and so on - there were zillion of errors in the log of the Orchestrator. That was not a good starting ...&lt;BR /&gt;So I skipped that step, rolled back the snapshot, deleted the database and started again - this time with a new CA-signed certificate.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4) (Dislike) documentation for implementing CA signed certificates&lt;BR /&gt;There is no documentation for "how to implement Company CA signed certificates for vRO 7.x"&lt;BR /&gt;If you don't work 24/7 with certificates and so on .. some instructions for "dummies" would be fantastic. How to create the certificate files, sign them agains a Windows CA, implement them to the OVA ...&lt;BR /&gt;I merged something from vCenter 5.5 Certificate replacement and&amp;nbsp; other sources ...&lt;BR /&gt;Also why is there no collaboration with the Plattform Service Controller? Our Plattform Service Controller is included as sub-CA.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5) (Big Like) Control Center&lt;BR /&gt;After implementing the new certificate and the basic seems to be working (before importing my workflows and so on) ...&lt;BR /&gt;WOW! The new control center is simple and clean. Easy to understand - i like it very much.&lt;BR /&gt;The "Runtime Metrics" are very nice, "Validate Configuration" is a good point to see if everything is working&lt;BR /&gt;And hell "Live Log Stream" - fantastic thing... 'view fullscreen' is even better - realy good job.&lt;BR /&gt;Also the logging integration is very good - you can now define for every plugin the log level - very nice, too.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5.2) (Missing) "Startup Options" Configuration - Roll Back&lt;BR /&gt;You can see on the Startup Options" that i have an "Active configuration Fingerprint" and a "Pending Configuration Fingerprint" - where is the option to rollback to any older configuration?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;5.1) (Dislike) New Database:&lt;BR /&gt;The Orchestrator detects on the database setting that it is "empty" and ask for creation of the tables or so ...&lt;BR /&gt;WHY do i have to run "install all plugins again" to get all workflows? &lt;BR /&gt;Why can't do the OVA this automatically if the database was empty?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;6) (Missing) Find Elements that use this Attribute-Type: SecureString&lt;BR /&gt;So after importing all my Workflows, ressources and so on it starts the never ending story:&lt;BR /&gt;Passwords and their encryption.&lt;BR /&gt;I have a few workflows that have as Attribute a password as Secure String.&lt;BR /&gt;So I have to edit all workflows with a SecureString, enter the password again and save it.&lt;BR /&gt;Could you please include a finder for workflows that have a attribute with type SecurePassword?&lt;BR /&gt;Also searching for AD:Object / SQL:Database and other types would be fine.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;6.1) (Bug?) SQL Plugin 1.1.4 imported ressource&lt;BR /&gt;To avoid editing a lot of workflows i do the following:&lt;BR /&gt;I generate a test-database connection with the workflow "SQl -&amp;gt; Configuration -&amp;gt; Add a database".&lt;BR /&gt;After that is a new ressource generated with the encrypted password.&lt;BR /&gt;I copy that password-hash and edit the ressource-file for the real-database connection.&lt;BR /&gt;After that i import the ressource. All Workflows with that database connection are working again - so basicly no problem.&lt;BR /&gt;That is only a "cosmetic bug": But If i try to run the workflow "SQl -&amp;gt; Configuration -&amp;gt; Update a database" it fails if i choose an imported Database-resource.&lt;BR /&gt;[2016-09-22 21:33:20.400] [E] Workflow execution stack:&lt;BR /&gt;***&lt;BR /&gt;item: 'Update a database/item2', state: 'failed', business state: 'null', exception: 'java.lang.NullPointerException (Dynamic Script Module name : updateDatabase#17)'&lt;BR /&gt;workflow: 'Update a database' (18541090831854109083178946495518541090830303030303030303030303030) &lt;BR /&gt;|&amp;nbsp; 'attribute': name=errorCode type=string value=java.lang.NullPointerException (Dynamic Script Module name : updateDatabase#17)&lt;BR /&gt;|&amp;nbsp; 'input': name=database type=SQL:Database value=dunes://service.dunes.ch/CustomSDKObject?id='c643c1fc-f459-4396-b7d3-c450976c9790'&amp;amp;dunesName='SQL:Database'&lt;BR /&gt;|&amp;nbsp; 'input': name=name type=string value=db_server&lt;BR /&gt;|&amp;nbsp; 'input': name=type type=string value=MySQL&lt;BR /&gt;|&amp;nbsp; 'input': name=connectionURL type=string value=jdbc:mysql://my.sexy.mysql.server:3306/databaseName&lt;BR /&gt;|&amp;nbsp; 'input': name=username type=string value=mySexyMySQLUser&lt;BR /&gt;|&amp;nbsp; 'input': name=password type=SecureString value=__NULL__&lt;BR /&gt;|&amp;nbsp; 'input': name=sessionMode type=string value=Shared Session&lt;BR /&gt;|&amp;nbsp; 'output': name=result type=SQL:Database value=null&lt;BR /&gt;*** End of execution stack.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;7) (Bug) Orchestrator Client -&amp;gt; "Scheduler"&lt;BR /&gt;Well that is an old Bug.&lt;BR /&gt;If you have e.g. 10 scheduled Workflows in that list you can do at the bottom of the list in the free area a right-click and "delete all finished workflows".&lt;BR /&gt;If you have so many scheduled workflows that you get a scroll-bar at the side - there is no free area where you get in the context menu "delete all finished workflows".&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sometimes I have the feeling that I'm 1 of million people that uses the orchestrator so excessive for daily business jobs...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;img class="lia-deferred-image lia-image-emoji" src="https://communities.vmware.com/html/@482170C6F13186AA4746798ECA69B77C/emoticons/1f60e.png" alt=":smiling_face_with_sunglasses:" title=":smiling_face_with_sunglasses:" /&gt; (Dislike) Orchestrator Client - Presentation -&amp;gt; Select value as&lt;BR /&gt;In the new Orchestrator Client the "Select value as" has changed a litte bit.&lt;BR /&gt;On some of the first workflows i thought "nice - I like it"&lt;BR /&gt;If you search for VirtualMachine "VM123" it was a good designed solution - until I came to my VM-Deploy Workflow. &lt;BR /&gt;Based on some Values (which vCenter, Datacenter, Cluster...) i filtered e.g. the Datastores.&lt;BR /&gt;If I plan to deploy a VM to Cluster B - I don't need to see the datastores of cluster A.&lt;BR /&gt;Now, when i select the datastore i got a small list with datastores that can be accessed by this cluster. &lt;BR /&gt;In the past I was able to sort that Datastores by capacity, free Space, name or whatever - now I see only the Datastorenames and "somewhere" some information.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;9) (Bug) vSpehere Webclient - Plugin Registration fails&lt;BR /&gt;In the vSpehere Webclient 5.5 was an extra Page to configure the Orchestrator for the Webclient (context menue, ...).&lt;BR /&gt;In the vSphere Webclient 6.0U2 that page says everytime how i can get started with the Orchestrator.&lt;BR /&gt;In the vCenter MOB - there is no com.vmware.vco registered.&lt;BR /&gt;So I started the Workflow: vCenter -&amp;gt; Configuration -&amp;gt; Register vCenter Orchestrator as vCenter Server extension.&lt;BR /&gt;That workflow is running without any problems and tells me that everything is good.&lt;BR /&gt;Somewhere I read that I have to restart the Webclient after plugin registration - but even that didn't helped.&lt;BR /&gt;And still there is no com.vmware.vco or similiar in the vCenter MOB.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Even if that posting sounds very negative - in generally i love the new Orchestrator. It is a rock-solide workflow engine - easy to start with it and use it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 17:49:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Aria-Automation/Things-I-like-and-dislike-on-the-new-Orchestrator-7-1/m-p/2728528#M23911</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kagome</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-03T17:49:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Things I like and dislike on the new Orchestrator 7.1</title>
      <link>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Aria-Automation/Things-I-like-and-dislike-on-the-new-Orchestrator-7-1/m-p/2728529#M23912</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the feedback.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't see it as a negative; most of the points sound like something we could (and should) try to address in the future releases.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Oct 2016 20:31:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Aria-Automation/Things-I-like-and-dislike-on-the-new-Orchestrator-7-1/m-p/2728529#M23912</guid>
      <dc:creator>iiliev</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-10-03T20:31:23Z</dc:date>
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