5 Replies Latest reply on Apr 10, 2019 10:33 AM by sjesse

    A/D assign or Direct via App Stack Manager ?

    Douglas42Adams Novice

      HI ,

       

      Just curious on how everyone is assigning their App Stacks .  I see pro's and con's both ways.

       

      Right now we have One A/D Group assigned to each App Stack and place users in that A/D group .

       

      Only thing we don't like is - there doesn't seem a way via Group Assigning to Immediately give the user the app w/ out a reboot.

       

      Whereas assigning the app stack directly to a User and not a group would allow that.

       

      We are leaning towards Individual assigns via App Stack.. however run into questions on upgrades of App stacks .

       

      Let's say your updating Chrome.. you have 1000 users assigned to 'old Chrome .

       

      You click UPDATE on the 'old' chrome.. hop on an install machine and update it .

       

      Now App Volumes just created a whole new App Stack called 'new' Chrome.  However NO user assigns followed to the 'new' chrome. ( i Get it.. one needs to test it..etc before giving it to everyone )

       

      Assuming we are assigning each app directly to users.. How to I transfer the 1000 people from 'old' chrome to 'new' chrome ?

       

      Is direct assign to users not feasible and we're stuck using A/D group assigning ?

       

      thanks !

        • 1. Re: A/D assign or Direct via App Stack Manager ?
          sjesse Master
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          There is an instant methods... don't use it

           

          Assign an AppStack to a User

           

          Option

          Description

          Attach AppStack on next login or reboot

          The AppStack is attached when the user logs in or reboots the machine.

          Attach AppStack immediately

          The volume is attached instantly to all computers on which the selected users are logged in. If you are assigning the AppStack to a group or organizational unit, all users or computers in that group get the attachments immediately.

          its a nice trick but I've seen problems with it. To "update chrome" just update the appstack, which creates a seperate appstack, connect that you provisioning machine to the update and finish the appstack. Then once that is complete unassign the current appstack on the next logout or reboot, and assign the new one on the next login or reboot.

           

          This way updates are applied when the user logs out or the computer restarts. It would be the same no matter the assignment. The immediate option is "immediate, which will break existing user sessions, I wish they would remove that option.

          • 2. Re: A/D assign or Direct via App Stack Manager ?
            sjesse Master
            vExpert

            I'd really suggest against single application  appstacks, there are limits. In general I think most people get do around 5-7 per user, but the technical limit I think is 15. We group our applicaitons in logical groups for the users using our desktops, so they get the applications they need. Things like chrome are in general in a common appstack that request them to be only updated once, some people I think put these things directly in the parent image since its something a large amount of people would use.

            • 3. Re: A/D assign or Direct via App Stack Manager ?
              da2125 Novice

              We only Assign AppStacks directly to Domain Local Groups (DLG) from within the AV Console,

              We then add users to a corresponding Global Group (GG) in AD then add the GG to the DLG.

              Ex: Assign Firefox AppStack to FIREFOX_DLG from within AV Console

              Add users to FIREFOX_GG

              Add FIREFOX_GG to FIREFOX_DLG within AD

               

              We also create FIREFOX_DLG_UAT & FIREFOX_GG_UAT for testing prior to moving the AppStack to Production

              Keep N-1 version on console in case something is missed in testing allowing you to revert back to previous version

              • 4. Re: A/D assign or Direct via App Stack Manager ?
                Douglas42Adams Novice

                Thanks Everyone.

                 

                So it sounds like there is no way from Inside the AppVolumes manager to migrate users from one AppStack to another.

                 

                e.g. you update chrome and it creates a new app stack.. and you want to move all users from the old one to the new one VIA the appvolume manager... assuming we are using Single user assigns inside of the appvol manager.

                 

                Sounds like Active Directory groups probably are best ?

                 

                thx .

                • 5. Re: A/D assign or Direct via App Stack Manager ?
                  sjesse Master
                  vExpert

                  So it sounds like there is no way from Inside the AppVolumes manager to migrate users from one AppStack to another.

                  This is done my unassigning the old one and assigning a new one.