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      • 675. Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!
        RickJSalt Novice

        Wow.  This thread dates back more than 4 years, with repeated promises by VMware to fix the issue and still nothing has changed.  We've been VMware customers for nearly a decade now and every day, Hyper-V is looking better and better.  I'm heading to VMworld in Vegas in a couple of months.  Anyone want to collaborate on a batch of "The Web Client Sucks!" t-shirts to wear en masse at the event?  Or just make your own; I'll be wearing mine; cheap t-shirt + printable iron-on = easy peasy expression/protest.

         

        I get it, VMware...a web client should make access easy from any platform, from anywhere.  Your promotional material regarding the web client is at best, aspirational, and at worst, an outright lie.  Page loading in any browser is downright painful and slow, if it loads at all.  Reaction time from clicks is equally slow.  By now, there is absolutely no reason for the HTML-5 client to be so neutered; it's essentially useless. 

         

        What is the most disgusting and disappointing is the utter dearth of comments and replies from VMware techs over the course of this entire thread.  A few, here and there, expressing understanding and begging for patience.  A few promising that changes are coming and that folks are working "around the clock" to make things better.  That particular promise was made 4 years ago, and yet, here we are still justifiably upset with the product.

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        • 676. Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!
          coxcometllc Novice

          If I were going, I'd absolutely wear the shirt.

           

          After four years of backlash I'd think they'd be well along the road to rebuilding the C# client.

           

          The console function when accessing a 6.5 host directly is clean and neat whereas it's actually worse (opens a whole new browser window) within vCenter.....how backward is that?

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          • 677. Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!
            golddiggie Virtuoso

            The web client(s) with 6.7 have improved again (on top of what the 6.5 releases achieved). I prefer to use the 'Flex' client still, over the HTML5 client for most things. Sadly, since the browsers are making Flash/Flex powered pages more difficult, the HTML5 client (or what they release next to replace it) is the way of the future.

             

            While I was NOT a huge fan of the web client initially, I have seen how it's actually improved over the past few years. Granted, if you're locked into an OLD release of vSphere, your life is going to SUCK. Just like how the vCSA was NOT ready for 'prime time' IMO until 6.5 came out (where VUM was integrated into it, so you didn't need a Windows VM just for that).

             

            I've seen minor glitches between using Firefox and/or Chrome (of different update versions) with the web client. BUT, I've been able to either work through those, or resolve them without losing hair (not that I have much left to lose).

             

            Something to keep in mind, with technology, things are ALWAYS going to change. Sometimes the path to improvements is filled with potholes. But eventually, you get to the good roadways. Trying to bully a company into bringing back an OLD technology item because you're not willing to work with what they're producing now is not cool. IMO, it shows a lack of mental flexibility.

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            • 678. Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!
              rlee09 Novice

              This is my wonderful vSphere web client at work, time to start really looking at HyperV and stop spending over $75000 per year with VMware:

              2018-06-26_14-46-54.jpg

               

              SUCKS!!! I have closed, cleared cache, re-opened, reboot (server and workstation) just plain SUCK!!!

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              • 679. Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!
                Bleeder Hot Shot

                Anyone else notice how this thread has been "branched to a new discussion", which we're apparently unauthorized to view?

                 

                 

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                • 680. Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!
                  golddiggie Virtuoso

                  Check your AV software and make exceptions for the web url. I've found that AV software can be the source/cause of a LOT of the perceived issues with the web client. To the point that I had to make several changes to my current [home] AV software (Kaspersky) so that the client would launch properly, and reliably. This is no reflection on what VMware has released, but the fact that the AV software is being a douche bag. To the point where I'm planning to switch to another product that I've had reports of acting far better. IIRC, there are a couple of other browser settings that make it load easier. I'm not in front of my system at this point, nor do I recall exactly what they were. IIRC, they were more security type exceptions for the local URL. Keep in mind, the AV product I have blocked local network url's even though I had set a broad exception. I had to add individual exceptions to the settings for the web client. I also had to do that for other local web consoles, so it's NOT just the VMware product being impacted (one of the reasons I'm going to switch AV products even though I bought another year worth of the software/subscription just a few months back).

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                  • 681. Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!
                    edgarasdjhsa Novice

                    No I did not

                     

                    However, latest SECURITY updates to vc adds button inside flash client:: Launch vSphere Client (HTML5)

                    which is strange seeing as those are security updates with critical severity

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                    • 682. Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!
                      TinkDTV Novice

                      Picking up Black T-Shirts tonight and already have printable Iron on pages.  I am thinking Black with with VMware green for the letters.

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                      • 683. Re: vSphere Web Client SUCKs so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to SH**!
                        gbeaudoin Novice

                        Yeah, I've noticed it for a while now. Every time I get asked about feedback from vmware, to explain my negative feedback or why I stopped recommending it, I keep giving the url to this thread. So maybe after a while someone from vmware who received that feedback got tired and tried to hide this discussion under the carpet? Maybe.. Well, maybe I'm paranoid also.

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                        • 684. Re: vSphere Web Client is so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to &^#$%@
                          mmango Novice

                          I'm not a damn beta tester for vmware, give me back a fu.ing working client and assemble a beta tester team to test your 90% unfinished products, thanks

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                          • 685. Re: vSphere Web Client is so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to &^#$%@
                            tkolbe Novice

                            "I'm not a damn beta tester for vmware, give me back a fu.ing working client "

                             

                            This 100%. I am absolutely fed up with this web client crap as well.... 6.7 is out and the best they can say is: "the html5 client is better than before, but you still need to use the flex client".

                             

                            VMWare, blow me. This is neither efficient nor acceptable for what we pay you.

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                            • 686. Re: vSphere Web Client is so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to &^#$%@
                              SANGuru201110141 Novice

                              I've been using VMWare since version 3, and it used to be the best thing ever.

                               

                              I started a new job about 5 years ago, vSphere 5 was around at that time but my manager insisted on using Citrix Xen. It took me 3 years to convince him that if we move from Citrix Xen to VMWare the money we spend will be well worth it. So eventually he agreed and we bought Enterprise Plus licenses for our production and DR datacentres (about 50 hosts, so it's a massive investment). I implemented it all and migrated all our workloads from Citrix Xen to VMWare over a 2-year long project. As we were going through the project I upgraded from 5.0 to 5.5, to 6.0 and then to 6.5, each time hoping and praying that the web client would get better.

                               

                              Then one day my manager wanted to create a VM, to see what was so cool about it and why I had been hounding him about VMWare for so long. The web client crashed when he tried to use it, so I told him to use the HTML5 client, he logged in and created a VM from a template using a customization spec. The VM came up, but it's hostname and IP didn't automatically get set as I told him it would (it had worked with other VMs, although inconsistently). Then he opened up the web console to try and login to set the hostname and IP, only to find out that his French keyboard is not supported. He spent a good 2 hours of cursing and battling trying to get that VM up, and then he asked me, "is this what we have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on?". It was utterly embarrassing. I raved about VMWare for so long, that it's the best thing, only to have VMWare let me down at the end.

                               

                              I must say that VMWare no longer delivers value for the money that it costs. The C# client was awesome, there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. Why discontinue it without a properly working replacement?

                               

                              To VMWare I say, "We are NOT your beta testers. We are your #@%$ customers and we pay a LOT of money for what has become an inferior product." This shyte client looks and works like it has been put together by amateurs, and I'm sorry, but 4 years has been quite long enough. I have done literally hundreds of VMWare implementations in my life, and it's a sad thing to say, but I'll be recommending Hyper-V in the future, because it's MY reputation you've damaged.

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                              • 687. Re: vSphere Web Client is so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to &^#$%@
                                klutch14u Novice

                                I still contend that a good web client is necessary and useful but the C# client is imperative to actual administrator duties.  Quickly logging in from anywhere to do something, giving a link to a developer so they can log in and manipulate their VM's and that sort of thing is great for the web client but if you have 100's of hosts that you're trying to manage, what a nightmare.  Flex or HTML5.  The C# is critical.

                                 

                                The worst part is when you have a dog and pony with VMware reps and they talk it all up or act like it's the first they've heard of people not liking the web client.   Clearly never having had to actually manage an environment with it and use it for sales demos and whatnot.  Just keep both, geesh

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                                • 688. Re: vSphere Web Client is so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to &^#$%@
                                  ttecs Novice

                                  Well this is a good thread. I thought it was just me doing something wrongly.

                                   

                                  I have had to roll back my 6.5s to 6.0 so I can use the thick client.

                                  As 6.0 is EOL is less than two years I suppose I will have to look at alternatives.

                                   

                                  I wonder if VMware actually think they are "so big" that they cannot lose.

                                   

                                  I have been in this game a LONG time and remember:

                                  Zilog

                                  Digital Research

                                  Santa Cruz Operation

                                  Commodore

                                  Novell

                                  Word Perfect

                                  Lotus

                                  just to name a few.

                                  All of them basically dominated their part of the IT world.

                                  All of them made stupid decisions that pissed of their users.

                                  Where are they now?

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                                  • 689. Re: vSphere Web Client is so bad that my experience managing and supporting VMware has turn to &^#$%@
                                    klutch14u Novice

                                    I'd love to be able to just switch but they do make a good product.  I just don't understand why they are so bound and determined to be tone deaf about this.  Not only does it suck but it's taken YEARS to replace.  Is it some team of 2 guys that do it after hours?  To top it all off they've felt the need to move everything around.  Again, they need a GOOD web client but it should be a secondary tool, not the primary.  I emailed Pat Gelsinger several years ago which actually got me a response from his "office" and a guy reached out to me but it was just canned BS.  Reminds me of Microsoft deciding a start button was no longer of use, at least they listened...

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