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    Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat

    JimKnopf99 Master

      Hello all,

       

      i am just reading some paper about upgrading to the new vCenter Version 5.5 with vcenter Heartbeat.

       

      In the new heartbeat Installation and upgrade paper on page 53 i read this.

       

       

      "Before attempting to upgrade from vCenter Server 5.0 or vCenter Server 5.1 to vCenter Server 5.5 you must

      install the VMware vSphere Single Sign-On (SSO) 5.5 component separately on a different machine (not on

      the Primary or Secondary node) and then protect SSO on the separate machine with vCenter Server Heartbeat"

       

       

       

      I could not belive it! Is that true that i need a seperate machine for my sso Installation? For what? We seperate the Installation in one Hardware and one VM Machine. I could not buy a new machine only for my SSO Installation.

      Is it true or could i install all of the vCenter components on one machine?

       

      Thanks

      Frank

        • 1. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
          dmihaescu Hot Shot

          If you do a fresh install, yes, you can install all the components on one machine.

          • 2. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
            JimKnopf99 Master

            And if i wan´t to do an upgrade i have to install it on a new machine??

            That could not be the truth. So i only have the option to do a fresh vCenter Installation?

            Lost all of my data? We are also using vCenter Operations Manager and other products.

             

            Frank

            • 3. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
              Enthusiast

              There is a fix coming in an express patch to do an upgrade with vCenter Server and SSO coexisting. The issue is described in release notes and a workaround provided. I understand your frustrations, and the SSO / Heartbeat teams are working towards a fix ASAP.

               

               

              Donna (vCenter Heartbeat PM)

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              • 4. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
                JimKnopf99 Master

                Hi Donna,

                 

                thanks for your Information. Yes, your right, at the moment, i am frustated about the new VMware products and updates. Bevor vSphere 5.1 all updates are running smoothly.

                The beginning of the SSO pain. No harm meant!!

                 

                Do you know where to look for? To see when the patch will be released?

                Thanks a second time ;-)

                Frank

                • 5. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
                  Enthusiast

                  Hi Frank,

                   

                  Let me see where we stand on validation of the fix. There are two workarounds right now when SSO is installed on the same server as vCenter..

                  (1) uninstall Heartbeat before upgrading which is not a good workaround for customers, and (2) run a small script to handle the issue. 

                   

                  Frank, VMware is committed to improving the quality of vCenter and mitigating customers frustrations.  I appreciate your candidness.

                   

                  Donna

                  • 6. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
                    JimKnopf99 Master

                    Hello Donna,

                     

                    then, i will wait until an update is released. Thanks for your help !!

                     

                    Frank

                    • 7. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
                      dmihaescu Hot Shot

                      Hi Frank,

                      You can find a workaround for upgrading SSO from 5.1 to 5.5 when protected by vCSHB: VMware KB: Upgrading Single Sign-On 5.1 to 5.5 when vCenter Server Heartbeat is installed

                       

                      Thanks,

                      Dani

                      • 8. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
                        bendter Lurker

                        Will there be any way to upgrade vCenter from 5.0 to 5.5 with vCenter Heartbeat and install SSO on the same server as vCenter?  Or will that require the Heartbeat software to be uninstalled first?

                         

                        Thanks,

                         

                        Bill

                        • 9. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
                          Mike Brown Novice
                          VMware EmployeesvExpert

                          bendter wrote:

                           

                          Will there be any way to upgrade vCenter from 5.0 to 5.5 with vCenter Heartbeat and install SSO on the same server as vCenter?  Or will that require the Heartbeat software to be uninstalled first?

                           

                          Thanks,

                           

                          Bill

                           

                          Bill that is supported today. You just need to upgrade Heartbeat to 6.6 first. You can see that Heartbeat 6.6 is compatible with both 5.0 and 5.5 here: VMware Product Interoperability Matrixes

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                          Once you have Heartbeat upgraded then make your secondary server active and install SSO 5.5, the Web Client, Inventory Service, upgrade vCenter and lastly any components such as VUM you may have installed. As with previous vCenter upgrades with Heartbeat (and all vCenter upgrades period) make sure you take backups of your vCenter and VUM (if you're using it) Databases as you'll need to restore those when you upgrade your primary server. The complete upgrade instructions can be found in the install guide for Heartbeat 6.6 located at vCenter Server Heartbeat Documentation. The line that states that during an upgrade you must install SSO on a different server only pertains to upgrading SSO 5.1 and has since been addressed. The known issues of Heartbeat 6.6 calls this out as a 5.1 issue only https://www.vmware.com/support/heartbeat/doc/vcenter-server-heartbeat-66-release-notes.html#knownissues

                           

                          Let us know if you have any more questions and watch the vSphere blog for more information soon on upgrading vCenter and vCenter Heartbeat.

                          --
                          Mike Brown, VCDX² (DCV & NV)
                          Senior SDDC Integration Architect
                          @vcdx71
                          • 10. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
                            dmihaescu Hot Shot

                            Hi Bill,

                            If you are upgrading from 5.0 to 5.5 and the server is protected by vCSHB, you will have to install SSO on a SEPARATE machine, as 5.0 does not have SSO and upgrading would mean installing a protected application after vCSHB..

                            vCSHB 6.6 supports vCenter 5.0, 5.1 and 5.5. If you want SSO and vCenter to be on the same server protected be vCSHB you have to install them BEFORE vCSHB.

                            • 11. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
                              Mike Brown Novice
                              vExpertVMware Employees

                              dmihaescu wrote:

                               

                              Hi Bill,

                              If you are upgrading from 5.0 to 5.5 and the server is protected by vCSHB, you will have to install SSO on a SEPARATE machine, as 5.0 does not have SSO and upgrading would mean installing a protected application after vCSHB..

                              vCSHB 6.6 supports vCenter 5.0, 5.1 and 5.5. If you want SSO and vCenter to be on the same server protected be vCSHB you have to install them BEFORE vCSHB.

                               

                              It is supported. There is a task that runs called protected service discovery that will find & add all the new SSO 5.5 services.

                              --
                              Mike Brown, VCDX² (DCV & NV)
                              Senior SDDC Integration Architect
                              @vcdx71
                              • 12. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
                                dmihaescu Hot Shot

                                hi mabrown76,

                                the protected service discovery task does exactly what it says, discovers if protected services are installed and starts monitoring them in order to restart them or perform an automatic failover in case the services fail.

                                The install guide for 6.6 specifies the following in the upgrading section:

                                page 53:

                                 

                                Prerequisites

                                Before attempting to upgrade from vCenter Server 5.0 or vCenter Server 5.1 to vCenter Server 5.5 you must install the VMware vSphere Single Sign-On (SSO) 5.5 component separately on a different machine (not on the Primary or Secondary node) and then protect SSO on the separate machine with vCenter Server Heartbeat.

                                • 13. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
                                  Mike Brown Novice
                                  VMware EmployeesvExpert

                                  dmihaescu wrote:

                                   

                                   

                                   

                                  Prerequisites

                                  Before attempting to upgrade from vCenter Server 5.0 or vCenter Server 5.1 to vCenter Server 5.5 you must install the VMware vSphere Single Sign-On (SSO) 5.5 component separately on a different machine (not on the Primary or Secondary node) and then protect SSO on the separate machine with vCenter Server Heartbeat.

                                   

                                  Like I mentioned above that should only say 5.1 and that issue was also fixed so that it is not an issue with 5.1 either. The protected service discovery will discover new vCenter related services and add them as protected services. You'll see this in an upcoming video on vmware.com and our iPad app soon.

                                  --
                                  Mike Brown, VCDX² (DCV & NV)
                                  Senior SDDC Integration Architect
                                  @vcdx71
                                  • 14. Re: Upgrade to vCenter 5.5 with Heartbeat
                                    dmihaescu Hot Shot

                                    hi Mike,

                                    Like I said above, vCSHB 6.6 protects the SSO version that was released in vCenter 5.5. The install guide correctly says 5.0 and 5.1

                                    The problem with SSO2 is that it is a new application with new services that do not exist in 5.0 and 5.1. If you upgrade on one server vCSHB will protect the services on that server (by protection I mean restart the service or the entire application) but it will not install them on the passive, so the passive server will not have these services and you will not be able to failover.

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