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      • 15. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
        autumnwalker Novice

        Not sure I follow what you're saying. Are you saying that there is a free version of vCenter Server available now via the client portal?

        • 16. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
          de2rfg Enthusiast

          I doubt that there is a free vCenter version. Can you provide a link to that version?

          • 17. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
            Cougar281 Novice

            I set up a full vCenter environment running the trial license.

            • 18. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
              autumnwalker Novice

              What happens when your trial expires? I assume you lose everything.

              • 19. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
                Cougar281 Novice

                Well, it doesn't 'go away' but it does stop working. I set up the trial to test 5.5 and the upgrade processes prior to doing the upgrade in my production environment.

                • 20. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
                  Gabrie Master
                  vExpert

                  Since only the new features come in the vSphere Web Client and those new features are mostly related to more than one manageable host, I'm wondering if you really need the Web Client.

                  • 21. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
                    Cougar281 Novice

                    I would argue that as long as it is possible to upgrade the virtual hardware to v10 using the traditional console, the web client is required. What if you have a lower version VM that you could use the newer hardware features on? Maybe not even v10 features, but say v8 features? If you use the traditional console to upgrade the hardware, it takes it straight to v10. And then the machine is done. You can no longer edit it as you must use the web console to edit v10 hardware.

                     

                    The web console allows you to pick what level you want to go to. If you have a v4 machine, for example, you can choose to take it to v8 if you want. Or all the way to v10.

                    • 22. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
                      TomWhite01 Lurker

                      Agreed Cougar. I will be moving away from using the free hypervisor for my home lab if they don't fix this one way or another.

                       


                      • 23. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
                        GNTL Novice

                        I might move to the Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2012 R2 root, as I've been running both, for comparison.  I am impressed with Hyper-V, and it's completely free.  The only thing I feel is missing (which is sometimes handy on a small host) over provisioning

                        • 24. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
                          JarryG Expert

                          Honestly, I was thinking about this alternative too (moving away from ESXi). This uncertainty about future of free ESXi-hypervisor does not look good. A month since 5.5 has been released, and still no reaction from VMware addressing this issue.

                           

                          Who knows what happens in 5.6 or 5.7? Maybe we will not be able to create VM with native client at all, or there will be simply no native-client (without any substitution) and thus absolutely no free way of administering "free" (?) ESXi-hypervisor...

                          • 25. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
                            jkopp Novice

                            Also did some playing with 5.5 Free.  I agree with you 100% on the issues.  I wanted to point out to new readers that when building a VM on the free 5.5, the default hardware is v8 and not v10.  *If you don't upgrade to v10*, everything seems to work the same as 5.1 free, but without the 32GB host limitation.  I feel 5.5 is still a step forward from the earlier versions.

                             

                            That being said, I back the other comments in this thread.  I don't like this potential v10 hardware issue with the thick client, and think it was poor form on VMWare's to even give users a potential to break their own labs.  There is a warning, but that warning may not be clear.

                            vm10.JPG

                             

                            On a related note for those that are in this thread because their VMs are now unmanagble do to this issue, you do have the ability to back out.  All VM Client settings exist in the VMX file.  Here's a workaround:

                            • Turn off the VM and note the datastore your VM's running under.
                            • Unregister the VM -- "remove from inventory" on the host.
                            • Browse the datastore and download the VMX file.
                            • Edit the VMX in notepad and change virtualHW.version = "10" -- back to 8 (or 9 if you'd like to upgrade to the 5.1 hardware).  Save the file.
                            • Browse back to the datastore.  I'd recommend renaming the original VMX as a backup.  Upload your edited VMX.
                            • Click the "Add VM to inventory" button to re-register your edited VMX to the host.
                            • All should be good now.  If so, delete your backup VMX file.

                             

                            Thanks to all for your insight on this issue.  I apprecaite having a smart community of users to help me through my day!

                            • 26. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
                              jbendsen Novice

                              I have not installed vcenter only vsphere 5.5. Lets say I am at work and want to access my vmware server and have the same functionality that the vsphere client is offering, then I imagine I would simply write the url to my vmware server in my work browser and vupti there it is... That is a web client by my definition. Is this what the vsphere web client is?

                              • 27. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
                                jkopp Novice

                                Not exactly sure what you mean by "simply write the URL".  When using the free ESXi, entering in your IP address of your ESXi host as the web URL will take you to a working web page where you have some basic options.  These options however don't give you the ability to manage the host or guests directly from your web browser.  VMWare's trying to wean us from thick-client managemnt the same way they got us to move off of the full consoles of ESX and onto ESXi and the PowerCLI.  The new web client (https://<WebClientServer>:9443/vsphere-client/ by default) is integrated into vSphere and allows you do perfrom almost all ESXi management tasks usually handled by the thick client.  The free ESXi can't be managed by vCenter which also excludes it from the vCenter's web client.  Once the guest hardware is upgraded to v10, the management of those guests is basically disbled if ESXi is running in free mode.

                                 

                                It's gets a little confusing because VMWare has rebranded their products over the years.  "vSphere" is what we used to call "vCenter".  What we used to call ESX, they now call "vSphere Hypervisor".  I'm assuming your original sentence means you installed the free hypervisor without the centralized management.

                                 

                                There is a thick client for ESXi5.5 that you can use to mange your ESXi 5.5 host from.  This same client will also mange guests provided you don't upgrade the hardware to version 10.  From my limited understanding and experimentation, there is very limited access to manage your "vmware server" (hypervisor guest) once it has been upgraded to version 10.  Once you do that, you'll need to have a functional vSphere/vCenter implementation.

                                 

                                I'm not smart on 5.5 yet.  I'm not sure what advanced features are missing by using the thick client instead of the web client.

                                 

                                I hope that makes sense.  I'm not sure if that's what you were looking for when you asked the question.  If you haven't experienced the web client before, you can get a taste for what it's like in this youtube video if you skip forward to 10:45. VMware vSphere 5.5 Upgrade Part 2. vCenter Server, Web Client, Upgrade Manager and ESXi - YouTube

                                • 28. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
                                  jbendsen Novice

                                  OMG, for the last 5 months I have been confused about all of this name changing vsphere, vcenter etc, not good standard...

                                   

                                  Anyway thanks for your reply, I was looking for a thin web client, like just writing the url for my server in a browser... so you bring good news.... when writing https://192.168.1.100 I get to my web page of my vsphere where it says download this and that.... (VMware ESXI welcome screen)


                                  So you are telling me that in order to get to the web client I have to write https://192.168.1.100:9443/vsphere-client, well this does not work here it says The web page is not available?


                                  So in order to get it to work I have to install something on my vsphere server?

                                  • 29. Re: ESXi 5.5 Free Hypervisor Web Console
                                    jkopp Novice

                                    The web client is part of the vSphere (think vCenter) installation.  It doesn't exist without it.

                                     

                                    Personally, I've installed directly onto our vSphere server, but we're a small shop.  It could be a server unto itself, but it doesn't exist outside of vSphere.  There are free 60 day trials if you'd like to kick the tires.

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