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    3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

    sgorham Novice

      After the issues that happened with U2 I am curious to see if folks have played with U3 yet. I, for one, won't even think about it for some time

        • 1. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
          khughes Virtuoso

           

          I'm downloading it and will play with it in our R/D area but as for production it will be some time, if ever we migrate up to U3, not many things fix/new in this version that benifit us

           

           

           

          • Kyle

           

          • 2. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
            Full_Halsey Enthusiast

             

            I think the previous post put the hammer on the nail. TEST IT IN THE LAB/R&D!!!!! I have little sympathy for folks that take bleeding edge releases right into production with no testing. Everyone was quick to blame VMware for not finding a bug when almost none of them bothered to test anything themselves. I for one will test this in my test lab. We have a checklist of items to check when upgrading any OS whether it be Windows or ESX. I highly recommend everyone do the same before they rush to criticize VMware.

             

             

             

             

             

            That's my 2 cents and beleive me, that's all it's worth.

             

             

            • 3. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
              Dave.Mishchenko Guru

              Your post has been moved to the VI: ESX 3.5 forum.

               

              Dave Mishchenko

              VMware Communities User Moderator

              • 4. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
                Jasemccarty Champion
                vExpert

                ESX & ESXi 3.5 Update 3, rendered my Dell Optiplex GX620's local datastore useless.

                 

                The upgrade (and fresh install) will not support a VMFS file system on my ICH-7 based controller.

                 

                To be honest with you, it kind of preturbs me, given that it is a decent box to test on.

                 

                 

                 

                Now I've got to go get another controller, or setup another box with an NFS or ISCSI target?  That's just silly, especially when 3.5.0, 3.5.0 U1 and 3.5.0 U2 worked fine.

                 

                 

                 

                Jase McCarty

                http://www.jasemccarty.com

                Co-Author of VMware ESX Essentials in the Virtual Data Center

                (ISBN:1420070274) from Auerbach

                • 5. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
                  lamw Guru
                  VMware EmployeesCommunity Warriors

                  Upgraded two BL460c with emulex FC's and the systems seems to be running okay, further testing and time.... will tell. Also have ESXi U3 on another Bl460c, haven't loaded any VMs on the system yet. I've heard that vmfs-undelete may have been successful for one individual on the forums, I haven't tried that yet but will be testing that functionality soon enough.

                  • 6. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
                    donikatz Hot Shot
                    Full_Halsey wrote:

                    I have little sympathy for folks that take bleeding edge releases right into production with no testing. Everyone was quick to blame VMware for not finding a bug when almost none of them bothered to test anything themselves.

                     

                    I don't think that's a fair comment re the U2 bug, because it was accidental kill date code that had nothing to do with end-user testing. Plenty of people had it in test for a while, looked stable, rolled live, later the date kill went into effect. It was quite correct to blame VMW for that one.

                     

                    That said, of course it is important to always put new released into test first. But unless you have a lot of money to truly replicate a prod environment in test, it's usually even better to wait for some serious prod feedback from others as well. Usually no reason to jump headfirst into anything new unless there's something critical.

                    • 7. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
                      jketron Hot Shot

                       

                      I have upgrades several server so far and not had an issue YET. I did notice that build 120512 in the configuration tab had a Health Status button that showed nice info from the SIM agent on a HP server and in U3 123630 it is gone.

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                      Does anyone know where the Health Status button or info has gone in U3?

                       

                       

                      Also, I have not had any Vmotion issues between U2 and U3, I did not do fresh installs, I patched all the servers using the patching process and they work fine SO FAR.

                       

                       

                      • 8. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
                        RParker Guru

                        I think the previous post put the hammer on the nail. TEST IT IN THE LAB/R&D!!!!! I

                         

                        BAH!  We upgraded, Production.  So what?  I always stay ahead of the curve.

                         

                         

                         

                        I have little sympathy for folks that take bleeding edge releases right into production with no testing. Everyone was quick to blame VMware for not finding a bug when almost none of them bothered to test anything themselves.

                         

                         

                         

                         

                        And you call yourself a TECH!??!  Hahaha.. that's funny... You have little sympathy eh, or maybe you don't have what it takes to know your envirnoment and know how to solve issues, that's what it sounds like to me.  What's the matter Col. Sanders, chicken?!?!?

                         

                         

                         

                         

                         

                        We have a checklist of  items to check when upgrading any OS whether it be Windows or ESX. I highly recommend everyone do the same before they rush to criticize VMware.

                         

                        Good!  But don't criticize those that enjoy playing with the NEW stuff when it comes out.  If it breaks I can fix it..  I support it, that's what we are here for to LEARN!  Someone has to be first, so you over conservative people can know what to expect. I prefer to stay AHEAD of the game rather than hearing it second hand...

                        • 9. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
                          RParker Guru

                          Dell Optiplex GX620

                           

                          Decent for a Windows box MAYBE, but it's not on the HCL, so all bets are off... That's why we follow the HCL, if it's not there, you can't expect it to be fully supported. . . .

                          • 10. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
                            jketron Hot Shot

                            I have done some DL380 G5's and DL585 G2

                            • 11. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
                              Jasemccarty Champion
                              vExpert

                               

                              Well, given that everything in this world is free... Software, Hardware, etc... I figured I wouldn't be stingy.

                               

                               

                              And up until I ran the updates, I had 2 SQL boxes on it, 1 biztalk server, 1 virtual desktop, and 2 web servers.

                               

                               

                              And it ran like a champ.

                               

                               

                              But again, it is test, and not prod.

                               

                               

                              • 12. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
                                Dave.Mishchenko Guru

                                They've made some changes in the PCI database that you should be able to work around with a custom simple.map file.  The first list is from update 2 and the 2nd is update 3.  You'll see that they've started using the IDE driver instead of ata_piix.   This is likely to do with the fact that the ICH7 controller is now supported in IDE mode for use with SATA CD-ROMs.

                                 

                                 

                                8086 27c0 0000 0000 storage ata_piix 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller IDE

                                8086 27c1 0000 0000 storage ahci 82801GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller AHCI

                                8086 27c3 0000 0000 storage ahci 2801GR/GH (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller RAID

                                8086 27c4 0000 0000 storage ata_piix 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller IDE

                                8086 27c5 0000 0000 storage ahci 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7 Family) Serial ATA Storage Controller AHCI

                                8086 27c6 0000 0000 storage ahci 82801GHM (ICH7-M DH) Serial ATA Storage Controller RAID

                                8086 27df 0000 0000 storage ide 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE Controller

                                 

                                 

                                8086:27c0 0000:0000 storage ide

                                8086:27c1 0000:0000 storage ahci

                                8086:27c3 0000:0000 storage ahci

                                8086:27c4 0000:0000 storage ide

                                8086:27c5 0000:0000 storage ahci

                                8086:27c6 0000:0000 storage ahci

                                8086:27df 0000:0000 storage ide

                                • 13. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
                                  Jasemccarty Champion
                                  vExpert

                                  I'll give that a try...

                                   

                                  Thanks.

                                   

                                   

                                  Jase McCarty

                                  http://www.jasemccarty.com

                                  Co-Author of VMware ESX Essentials in the Virtual Data Center

                                  (ISBN:1420070274) from Auerbach

                                  • 14. Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?
                                    Dave.Mishchenko Guru

                                    Would you be able to update both 27c0 and 27c4 and then post a copy of the file here?  I'm sure you won't be the last one to have this problem.

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