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    Dual Screen Support

    Wally_Mac Novice

       

      Like many avid Mac users who want or need to use some Windows applications from time-to-time...

       

       

      I've been using both VMware Fusion and Parallels Desktop to address my needs.  For the most part my Windows VMs are almost identical duplicates and I've been working at understanding the pros-and-cons of the two VM solutions.  Both Fusion and Parallels have their own unique advantages and disadvantages,  and as at the latest version of Fusion...  the only big-deal item missing (in Fusion) for me is true dual monitor support;  allowing single and unity modes to behave seamlessly across both monitors/screens.

       

       

      In searching through the forum topics I couldn't find any date or timeline for this update...   Any news on this?

       

       

       

       

       

        • 1. Re: Dual Screen Support
          TimothyAllan Novice

          I've got to put a big hand up for this as well. The -only- problem that fusion isn't solving for me right now is dual monitor support. I use it fullscreen almost all the time at work, and have a second LCD attached to my Macbook Pro that sits idle most of the time...

          • 2. Re: Dual Screen Support
            Guru

            In searching through the forum topics I couldn't find any date or timeline for this update...   Any news on this?

             

            VMware policy is to not comment on unannounced features (including timelines). We know multiple monitor support is important to people, but that's about all I (or anyone else) can say.

            • 3. Re: Dual Screen Support
              sfong15 Lurker

              Yes, I'm running an evaluation copy of fusion and this dual monitor feature will determine when I buy this.   I'm currently running bootcamp with XP on a partition connected to 2 monitors.    I won't give up one monitor because I paid for fusion.

              • 4. Re: Dual Screen Support
                fuzzy-wan Enthusiast
                Wally_Mac wrote:

                 

                Both Fusion and Parallels have their own unique advantages and disadvantages,  and as at the latest version of Fusion...  the only big-deal item missing (in Fusion) for me is true dual monitor support

                 

                Are you saying that Parallels does have dual-monitor support? I haven't seen anything on their site to suggest that.

                 

                I ended up buying a 20" widescreen so I could at least fit two windows side by side in the VM. I needed something, so this "poor man's" dual-monitor setup will have to do for now.

                • 5. Re: Dual Screen Support
                  Wally_Mac Novice

                   

                  Fuzzy-Wan,

                   

                   

                  Yes,  with  Parallels I can use both monitors in a very comprehensive dual screen mode.  When running Parallels/Windows in single window mode I can drag/move any and/or all windows to either monitor...  and when running in Coherence mode the dual screen capabilities look extremely good.

                   

                   

                  That said...  there are some things that I prefer about Fusion;  specifically the dual CPU capabilities and the superior graphics support.

                   

                   

                  • 6. Re: Dual Screen Support
                    Guru

                    Both Fusion and Parallels have their own unique advantages and disadvantages,  and as at the latest version of Fusion...  the only big-deal item missing (in Fusion) for me is true dual monitor support

                     

                    Are you saying that Parallels does have dual-monitor support? I haven't seen anything on their site to suggest that.

                     

                    Last I heard, Parallel's dual-monitor support is still a hack - they stretch a single virtual screen across your monitors, the guest does not see multiple monitors. For some things, this works OK, but for others, it's bad.

                    • 7. Re: Dual Screen Support
                      fuzzy-wan Enthusiast
                      etung wrote:
                      Wally_Mac wrote:

                       

                      Yes,  with  Parallels I can use both monitors in a very comprehensive dual screen mode.  When running Parallels/Windows in single window mode I can drag/move any and/or all windows to either monitor...  and when running in Coherence mode the dual screen capabilities look extremely good.

                       

                      Huh. I'm surprised they don't mention that, unless I missed it somehow.

                       

                      I had a truly hellish experience withe the first Parallels 3.0 release, but maybe it just wasn't ready for the Santa Rosa MacBook Pros at the time.

                       

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                      >Last I heard, Parallel's dual-monitor support is still a hack - they stretch a single virtual screen across your monitors, the guest does not see multiple monitors. For some things, this works OK, but for others, it's bad.

                       

                      That could get pretty ugly with mismatched monitors ... maybe that's why they don't talk about it much.

                      • 8. Re: Dual Screen Support
                        VTMac Enthusiast

                        Parallels does NOT have dual monitor support.  They do a hack whereby they pretend the main monitor is bigger than it really it is, so that it extends to the secondary monitor.  This is admittedly gives you more functionality than the status quo with Fusion, but it's still a limited hack. The biggest issue with their current implementation is that if you have 2 different resolution monitors it works very poorly.  In my case it clips the parallels windows on the bigger monitor where my smaller monitor screens edge would be.

                        • 9. Re: Dual Screen Support
                          fuzzy-wan Enthusiast

                          I was afraid it would be something like that. Definitely not gonna fly with my MacBook Pro and the three (very differently sized) monitors I work with. Sigh...

                          • 10. Re: Dual Screen Support
                            Wally_Mac Novice

                            VTMac,

                             

                            You are either mistaken or have been somewhat misled....

                             

                             

                             

                            Although this is not the right place for this discussion...  and I'm not working at defending or promoting Parallels...   yes they do have dual monitor support.

                             

                             

                             

                            I have my iMac (24" - 1920 x 1200) and a Dell 19" (1280 x 1024) working in perfect harmony; side by side.

                             

                             

                             

                            Here are a few informational links on their dual screen capabilities,  including a YouTube video:

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esCVmB0yJZo

                            http://forums.parallels.com/thread755-2.html

                            http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20070215224256232

                            • 11. Re: Dual Screen Support
                              VTMac Enthusiast

                               

                              I'm a paid owner of both VMWare and Parallels and I've used Parallels since their 1st public beta.  I never said it didn't "work".  I said it was a hack that has limitations.  On my system, if I use my 15in MBP (1440x900) and my Dell 20in LCD (1680x1050) with Parallels in Coherence mode, my Windows applications are clipped at the border width (900px) of my MBP on the Dell LCD.  Perhaps that is acceptable for you, or perhaps it behaves differently on your setup, or perhaps the latest release fixed this long standing issue.  In any case that is how it's worked from the 1st beta of Coherence up until the last release.

                               

                               

                               

                               

                               

                              • 12. Re: Dual Screen Support
                                Wally_Mac Novice

                                Fuzzy-wan,

                                I've posted a reply (above to VTMac's comments, and would add one additonal item...

                                After setting up my iMac to use the second (Dell) monitor,  then with Parallels or in Mac mode,  I can shift, move, drag or manoevour windows and folders back and forth.

                                That said,  if I tried to move something that had a size of say 1400 x 600 pixels from my iMac (1920 x 1200 pixels) to the Dell monitor (1280 x 1024 pixles) then yes,  I would either have to re-size the 1400 x 600 window or have it "clipped".

                                 

                                Included below are two screen captures, the larger/wider being my iMac... (with Parallels running in coherance mode)

                                Screen 1 = Internet Explorer 7, Firefox, Mac Mail 3, Finder Windows, Info Tab

                                Screen 2 = Paint Shop Pro, Forklift, Text Edit

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                http://communities.vmware.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/1518/Dell_Scrn2.jpg

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                No complaints for my needs/wants.....

                                • 13. Re: Dual Screen Support
                                  holtsch Novice

                                  I'm adding my vote on this - dual screen support is a MUST... I was kind of disappointed finding out this doesn't work

                                  • 14. Re: Dual Screen Support
                                    -mj- Lurker

                                    hi all

                                       

                                     

                                    i'm new to this list

                                    just bought vmware and i'm also a bit disappointed about not having 2 screens

                                     

                                    it did played with the parallels demo and i noticed the dualscreen hack 

                                    but it wont work for me . I have my second screen above my macbookpro screen

                                     

                                    ;(

                                     

                                    -mj

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