Thanks Doug, i'd forgotten about the those service settings. I supose if thats all I can get then i'm cool with it. I was hoping to be able to hack a way around having mod_status and vhosts being crippled by our security policy, w/o having to go through the humongous hassle of implementing snmp.
I also don't relish the thought of having to do the setup manually on 6 dozen severs...
some folks are advocating using AWS Stats for apache metrics, which personally makes no sense to me when we can get them for free with mod_status (and hyperic parsing of course:D).
If one late night you can remember some other shortcut i'd appreciate a shout out on this post. Otherwise i'll start diggin through the setup and keep an eye our for a post form another wayward adminstrator.
thanks again.
Deeboh