So I ran another test today (today = A Saturday at 5:00 am when nobody else is trying to logon) and noticed my shell load time was down to from 100 seconds to 14 seconds.   Normally I am testing around 8:00 am on a weekday when 300 other users are logging in and touching the App Volumes Mgr.    So...I am starting to wonder if I need another App Volumes manager stood up with some load balancing?   I only have 1 right now for about 500 user but not all have app assignments.   sjesse​  How many APVs do you have?   Has anyone seen a shell load time reduction by adding another AVM with Netscaler LB?  I may toss this up on the APV forum space too.   Seems I'm getting off topic for what this thread is intended for.  thanks all!