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Gartner says virtualization too expensive

http://storage.itworld.com/4620/070509virtexp/page_1.html

"Businesses will need to open their wallets if they want to be technology leaders as virtualization is expensive, Gartner analyst, Thomas Bittman said Tuesday.

Speaking at Gartner's infrastructure, operations and data center summit in Sydney, Bittman said the number of virtual machines will rise from 500,000 currently in use to three million by 2009.

However, he said it will be an expensive exercise for businesses and told IT managers to "stick it out" until the problems with virtualization, such as licensing, support and emerging technologies are ironed-out.

"There aren't many good virtualization vendors out there at the moment and virtualization is still expensive," Bittman said, adding that virtualization will be a free service in the near future.

He said business should build a strong data center governance strategy to fend-off vendors which will begin vying for third party managerial control of virtualization.

"Vendors will be competing for \[data center] governance so you need to have a solid strategy," Bittman said.

"Don't allow VMWare, IBM and Microsoft to own your governance because none of them have been able to totally deliver virtualization yet and you don't want to be locked in."

Gartner senior analyst, Phil Sargent, said virtualization will be part of nearly every aspect of IT by 2015 and recommended IT managers query vendors now about how they will accommodate their application with the new technology.

"Virtualization will bring more consumer client applications into the data center which needs to be discussed with vendors as well," Sargent said.

"There are still \[problems] with virtualization in support and software licensing and not everything can be virtualized; this will clear-up over the next two to four years."

Real Time Infrastructure (RTI), a term coined by Gartner, encapsulates the benefits in improved data center policies, SLAs, agility and cost derived from sharing infrastructure resources between businesses and internal departments.

SOA and Web services, as a part of RTI, could become a "nightmare" for data centers as businesses and vendors explore the model, according to Bittman.

He said application failure will be the number one cause of unplanned downtime and will increase in businesses that use SOAs.

He cited Gartner statistics which found unplanned downtime in SOA-based businesses with be caused by application failure (60 percent), operator error (20 percent), and environmental factors (20 percent).

In contrast, unplanned downtime in non SOA-base business will be caused by application failure (40 percent), operator error (40 percent), and environmental factors (20 percent).

He said the cumbersome RTI offerings of big companies like Microsoft, Hewlett Packard, and IBM will falter as small dynamic players will better appeal to the market.

Power and cooling concerns will die out like last years' fashion with the arrival of specialist technology in 2011, but Bittman said data centers will need to endure insufficient technology until then.

"Power and cooling requires densities that current equipment can't handle \[but] you will need to survive a few years before it is resolved," Bittman said.

Sargent pointed out increasing densities and shrinking technology is causing grief with IT managers trying to cap power use in their data centers.

Windows and Linux will split over the next few years to meet the rising demands in thin computing which will rival the need for a centralized operating system.

"The need for a deep, general Windows and Linux will grow, but thin computing will demand a \[stripped down] OS which will basically be a smaller runtime application for streaming to thin clients," Bittman said.

On the outsourcing front, big players will sink as small dynamic vendors soak up business from SMBs.

"Large companies that currently dominate the market will retain their governance while smaller, cheaper outsourcers will soak up \[menial] tasks outsourced by SMBs," he said.

IT managers should focus on improving business agility and culture, noting that the best way to improve the former is to ask customers what their service expectations are."[/b]

I don't really understand what this article is getting at. How is SOA threatened by virtualisation?

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MarkNorman
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Too expensive huh?

My VM's cost about a 1/3 of a physical box, and that includes all the SAN/Network port costs + the cost of a very expensive SAN.

Plus the monitoring "out of the box" that comes with Virtual Centre

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SyverDude
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"He said application failure will be the number one cause of unplanned downtime"

Wow, thats pretty profound. He really went out on a limb with that prediction. This has been true for a very long time. The only reason it is more true now than ever before is only because hardware is more reliable now.

The article is a jumble of predictions without any background. For instance his statements about power being an issue until 2011 is silly because power and cooling problems are largely solved by virtualization.

This is the IT version of the sunday morning talking heads on television.

While esx licenses are expensive, the alternatives are way more expensive.

Regards,

Jon

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mreferre
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Gartner says virtualization too expensive

Perhpas their reports are cheap ? based on the value their reports are way more expensive than any virtualization technology you can think of this galaxy.

Being an analyst at IDC/Gartner would be my dream .... in 2007 you could talk about what could happen in 2015 and in 20015 nobody would remember what you said (wrong) in 2007 ......Itanium anyone ?

Massimo.

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Rob_Bohmann1
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"There aren't many good virtualization vendors out

there at the moment and virtualization is still

expensive," Bittman said, adding that virtualization

will be a free service in the near future.

Free? I wonder what the near future is ?

I am sure support will not be necessary either.

I think tonight I will go visit the tarot card reader down the street and she what she thinks.

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vmNewb35
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here here...we have drastically reduced our physical machine footprint; cleaned up all those messy cables; reduce floor space and cooling costs; AND saved money. There is a cost to be paid up front but the TCO is going down in our shop. And let's not talk about how amazing VM is for proof of concepts...I no longer have to acquire physical hardware to test out an idea. This makes R&D significantly cheaper.

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vmNewb35
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king -- too true and too funny!

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devzero
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>Bittman said the number of virtual machines will rise from

>500,000 currently in use to three million by 2009.

what VMs does he mean?

VMs in this world?

500,000 currently in use?

i assume even the number of active copies of workstation, player and server is larger than this number.

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bluecollarit
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i think what we are paying for workstation and what it does makes it a pretty good buy. of course the all time great buy in software would have to be the first offering of turbo pascal. at 29.95 it was less than 10% of microsoft pascal and about 10 times the product. it put borland on the map. of course for great buys you have to include skype for computer to computer voice and how about adobe reader. its hard to beat free.

i cant really call vm workstation expensive. but i guess gartner gets paid to make rash statements which draw response from the user community

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SyverDude
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See Notes inside . . .

i think what we are paying for workstation and what

it does makes it a pretty good buy. of course the

all time great buy in software would have to be the

first offering of turbo pascal. at 29.95 it was less

Wow, That is a blast from the past. My first internship, over 20 years ago, I used Turbo pascal to develop a line scheduler for an icecream manufacturer. It was with turbo pascal and on an ibm pc junior with those silly chicklet keys. Turbo pascal was an amazing innovation compared to the floppy exchange process of utilizing University of Berkley apple pascal.

Thanks for making me feel old Smiley Happy Regards,

Jon

than 10% of microsoft pascal and about 10 times the

product. it put borland on the map. of course for

great buys you have to include skype for computer to

computer voice and how about adobe reader. its hard

to beat free.

i cant really call vm workstation expensive. but i

guess gartner gets paid to make rash statements which

draw response from the user community

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kix1979
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For every Gartner report, I bet you there are at least 5 others that contradict it.

Thomas H. Bryant III
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mikemohr
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If these damn studies would quit doing their tests on Dell 2950 dual proc boxes with 2-4GB of RAM they'd probably get better results.

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uushaggy
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To your very last comment...Virtualiation is a principle enabling technology for supporting the next gen Service Oriented Architecture (SOA). A huge principle of SOA is reuse. The more things can be reused to more value is derived from that item. This being said, virtualization also allows you to build hardware agnostic machines, so now you can reuse templated OS builds that you setup once across whatever underlying hardware you have. Further utilizing templates to setup a library of application servers or even mini-farm solutions, the value increases even more. Also since these machines are pre-built, pre-patched they are already typically close to 100% compliant with what ever compliancy requirements customers may have regarding security or other regulation. Just a few ways virtualization enables SOA.

I think that his comments regarding threats to SOA are all focused on issues which are not even really 100% applicable to virtualiation. Is this guy even considering new features of VI3 or was this based on VI2?

A consultant on a governance assingment for VMware...

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jasonboche
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I am disappointed to hear this news. I will begin de-virtualizing my Datacenter.






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ctfoster
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Garter always make me laugh. I've got a packets of their reports under desk - How about.... 'Thin client hardware are about to transform the desktop in 2000', "Client - Server / OOD / Whatever - is the way forward" - "Java will revolutionize the way office application are deployed" - 2002. Pick any fad, state the obvious and pocket the cash. How about a Gartner study- "Why techology reports are always wide of the mark 18 months down the line"

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tarrysingh
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Ssshhh, King... You and I know that those jobs are really cool so lets keep the ventpipe and the frontdoor open at alltimes Smiley Happy

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