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saunders
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VMWare desktop ontop of ESX VM?

Has anybody been running or tried running VMWare desktop inside of a VM running on ESX? I know people who have tried running ESX in a VMWare Desktop VM, but not the other way around.

Any thoughts? Comments? Does it run well? Slow?

Thanks

Saunders

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TCronin
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It will detect that it's in a virtual enviroment and throw an error and refuse to load.

Tom Cronin, VCP, VMware vExpert 2009 - 2021, Co-Leader Buffalo, NY VMUG
oreeh
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In theory you can by adding the isolation parameters to the VMX file but I'm not sure if it really works.

Besides - it would be awfully slow.

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saunders
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I double checked with my VMWare rep and you all are right.

Thanks for the quick help!

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continuum
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VMware workstation msi-file can be edited to skip the CheckVM test - so the argument that it will not run as it detects that it is inside a VM is moot


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TCronin
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The product then also checks for a virual enviroment every time it is run. You can edit the isolation parameters, but what's the point?

Tom Cronin, VCP, VMware vExpert 2009 - 2021, Co-Leader Buffalo, NY VMUG
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continuum
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> The product then also checks for a virual enviroment every time it is run.

Not if you edited the msi and removed the CheckVM test.

I used that to run VM in a VM before Workstation 6


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saunders
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Just to take this question in a slightly different direction, but has anybody tried to run RHEL5 with the XEN kernal in an ESX VM?? I am installing RHEL5 in a VM as I type this, however the installer didnt give me an option for the XEN Kernal..

Thanks again for all the help everybody,

Saunders

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ejward
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Can I ask why you would want to do this? Just curious.

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saunders
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I dont really have a reason, I just wanted to see if it worked. Like you said, just curious.

Saunders

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continuum
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Saunders - I like your approach Smiley Wink

Try to play with

hypervisor.xen.allow = "true"

and report results.

I guess this hack only works for WS 6 but you never know for sure - it was mentioned in context with redhat 5 and XEN.

If you know more let me know - I'd like to fill the blank spaces in

http://sanbarrow.com/vmx/vmx-advanced.html#hypervisor


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saunders
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Sorry, i have never tried messing with the hypervisor before. Can you tell me where to change this setting? Is a Per VM Setting or a Per ESX setting? I looked for it under "Configuration>options>Advanced" but i didnt see it under there.

I will be glad to try it if you can let me know where to change it at.

Thanks again

Saunders

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continuum
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Don't search for this in the GUI - not even in the advanced tab - this is a setting you can only configure in the hidden "stuntpilot" tab Smiley Wink

You can try to put that into the vmx-file of that redhat5 VM.


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saunders
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Sorry it took me a few days to get back to you all, but I dont think it will work. I tried setting the option, but durning the RHEL5 install, the options for XEN werent available.

Thanks everybody

Saunders

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