When will vSphere client FULLY work? (no web/no flash)

[RNAR]

Since vSphere 4.1 or whenever the web based client was created by VMware, we've had to use at least two different vSphere clients to get full functionality. They decided to go with only a web based client, but web browsers are constantly changing. The web "browser" used to access everything from the most important datacenter infrastructure to completely untrustworthy random (probably malware infested) web pages is a BAD and UNRELIABLE platform for application development. Now, using vSphere 6.5, we're still in the same boat as always. There are as always more than one client and some or all of them don't do everything. The Flash version of the web client is required to get full functionality and yet the browser developers are trying actively to kill Flash. Flash bad! Browers will always be updated and changed. It is too dangerous not to do that. VMware will never be able to keep up. So, can we stop using a "browser" as an operating system? When will this end?

[MikeStoica]

Fully Featured vSphere Client in vSphere 6.7 Update 1 - VMware vSphere Blog

[sk84]

Web or cloud-based applications are the future. Most likely there will never be an installable vSphere client again. Because that contradicts the sense of a cloud solution. Deal with it.

If your browsers are infected, you have the wrong security policies and tools in your infrastructure. And that's not the fault of VMware. They do their business as usual as a cloud / virtualization company.

[RNAR]

"if your browsers are infected..." yeah, ok, but browser infections are the number 1 way that malware gets on a machine. The computer industry as a whole has a problem that they are losing the battle on; so, 'just deal with it' is not working, by the way.

And yeah, sorry, I was just feeling particularly frustrated about how everything is constantly buggy and how VMware is constantly changing platforms. I guess I could always go learn another platform or get out of the computer industry or do anything. Anyone could always suggest that.

And ok, they say that if we have the capability to install a new infrastructure or otherwise get everything onto 6.7 and patch that all up, then we can have a fully featured vSphere client without Flash. Ok, so they got there. I hope it lasts. Meanwhile, the company I'm currently working for will be on 6.5 for at least another 5 years. Too bad for me.

[DarkAlman]

Version 6.7 now has full functionality in the web-based console and a fully realized HTML5 based interface.
Unfortunately it's still terrible.

Working for an MSP I have the benefit of being able to use various different versions of OS's including VMware on a daily basis so I get to constantly compare the different versions.

Having worked with 6.5+6.7 HTML5 and Flash side-by-side with the old C# client in 5.5 and 6.0 I'm constantly reminded by how bad the web-based interface is.

It takes me twice as long to complete even basic tasks because everything is click ... loading ... still loading... and done

The load times for the console are atrocious.

The interface is clunky and isn't as intuitive, you can't right-click on half the menus so you have to go digging for that link that has the setting or feature you are looking for.
It's been years since the web client was released and I'm still finding myself googling to find where certain settings are when I could find them in a heartbeat in the C# client.
And you have to install plugins to get all the functionality to work like the remote console so it isn't a true browser based application anyway.
Let alone having to constantly enable flash and update it for my clients still running 6.0 > 6.5

I'm sick of being told Web-based applications are the future so suck it up. The industry has made a horrible mistake. I weep for the future because the future of interfaces sucks.