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MichaelGG
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What's actually worthwhile in Workstation 11?

Is there anything actually worth upgrading for in VMware WS 11?

I see "new operating system support", but I've no idea what that actually means as I've run those OSes in WS 10 just fine. Except for Windows 10, which has terrible graphics performance, and still does on WS 11.

There's some mention of Haswell support but no details as to what it actually is. Probably just AVX support? They updated some drivers, too? "Updated NDIS drive" I assume is a typo.

Hilariously, they go on to say that 3D support won't work with WS 11 if you use a Linux not on their list, or if you *use Microsoft Office*. And USB headsets won't work.

Then they list a few other bugfixes which ... should just be fixed instead of requiring a new version. (WS 10 would crash about once a day with Windows guests, maybe that'll go away but I'm not hopeful.)

I'm feeling really disappointed. I don't see anything noteworthy.It *feels* like, since Workstation is essentially the only high-grade product for end-user virtualization on Windows, they're just sitting around. And of course, they're terrified by Hyper-V on the ESXi side (the enterprise blogs are vicious; it's sorta funny how fierce both sides got. I especially loved how VMware kept retreating to pointing out whatever esoteric feature HV was missing, and MS just closed that gap bit by bit).

But WS doesn't really fit into VMware's model, does it? So they get a $150 from a few end users... big deal? Does WS revenue even make a rounding error in their financials?

Am I missing something here?

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mfelker
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No.  You are not missing something.  I spend 6 8 months on the VMware Technical Preview site and basically they were two months behind the normal release date in October with nothing but a very sightly improved GUI and new features that often don't work.  The installation process is worse than even.  Creating a VM is unpredicatble even if it is "supported".  I'm not going to bother trying to install it on kernel 3.17 - I'll wait around for the third-party patch - if anybody wants to spend time on it. From the release notes we see that the Technical Preview is an operating system.

New Operating System Support
Support has been added for the following guest operating systems:

  • Windows 8.1 Update
  • Windows Server 2012 R2
  • Windows 10 Technical Preview (Experimental support)
  • Ubuntu 14.10
  • Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7
  • CentOS 7
  • OpenSUSE 13.2
  • SUSE Linux Enterprise 12
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dcell59
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Well, it crashes more than any other version I've used, though I started with version 4, so maybe one of the earlier versions was worse. It also prevents you from being able to register for the upgrade to WIndows 10.

Those are some awesome new features!

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newbie93
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I tried WS 11 when it was first released - for about a day... Went back to 10.0.1 until they fix the (still) badly broken USB (2,3, everything). I use sentinel dongle protection devices in USB and they don't work at all in WS 11. They work fine in WS 10 and ESXi 5.5 U2. Unless VMWare fixes that, they will never see another penny from my company again. Ever.

BTW - I have been running Windows 10 x64 (all previews) up to the latest build 0130. They've all run just fine in VMs on my machine. I am on the fast update ring, so I see all of the MS crud.. This latest (130) broke shared folders, but I just uninstalled/reinstalled vmware-tools afterwards and they now work again. I am using a Window 7 x64 host.

I suspect that Workstation is a proving ground for technology that will eventually get in ESXi.

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