Hi,
@rick2600 wrote:Hi @Mikero, thank you for the infos.
As many others I can't launch Workstation Pro due the compilation problem of vmmon and vmnet.
The setup is:
Software: VMware Workstation 16.2.3 build-19376536
OS: Ubuntu 20.04
Kernel: 5.15.0-41-genericYou mentioned that a fix to address this issue is comming.
Is there a deadline?
If not... Is there a temporary official workaround until we wait for the patch?Thank you.
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Wil
@Mikerowhat's the issue with Windows 11? It's not even that different from the latest Windows 10 release (21H2) at the time of this writing. I have done quite a bit of Windows kernel development in my professional career (even in the file system realm) and dabble in Windows internals almost on a daily basis and the biggest changes I am aware of were during the Windows 10 era but not so much at the divide between Windows 10 and 11. Also, technically Windows 11 still keeps reporting as 10.0 (with manifest or RtlGetVersion, which are the two ways to avoid Windows lying and returning 6.2), despite its marketing name. The SDK and WDK are also called 10.0 (referring to the Windows 11 build number 22000, though).
Does this have to do with the fact that Windows (since 10, though) often runs atop Hyper-V to enable features like the Virtualization-based Security (VBS), which also necessitates installing Windows Hypervisor Platform? Is MSFT seriously refusing to work with VMware on this? I'd be surprised, since they are a competitor with Hyper-V and therefore I imagine they'd literally hand you arguments for a potential legal case.
MSFT has literally raised the bar year after year for anti-malware products, too. Performance requirements and other stuff in order to be able to participate at different levels in their private "programs". So I can relate to the pain you describe. However, it does depend a lot on how much technical debt was accrued before their respective deadlines (and I've seen them pushing deadlines due to vendors not being able to make them). And also you definitely can't put a user mode dev on a driver and expect anything good to come off of it.
Regarding Windows 11 (guest) support. Thanks, I was pleasantly surprised to see that go so smoothly initially. But after I ran into the issue with the VM being reported as encrypted and no way to access it anymore (several times), I ended up resorting to the trick where during setup you add a few registry values to have the setup skip the relevant checks. Sure, this could also break at the mercy of MSFT, but a VM suddenly no longer being accessible without any way to recover, just because this vTPM thingamy acts up, isn't an option either.
I recall how disappointed I was when time travel debugging was culled from VMware Workstation. I think you called it replay debugging or so. Regardless, that feature was so much ahead of its time. It was a pity to see it go. It indeed looks a bit like the product is in decline. My main beef with alternatives on the Linux side is currently the lack of agreeable (guest) multi-monitor support as well as the lack of accelerated graphics for the guest. Hope these don't also go the way of the dodo 
> So, can I assume that is safe to "upgrade" to 16.2.4 (i.e. nothing new is broken, and it will compile under kernel 5.15)?
I have not seen someone reporting a successful build on newer kernels yet.
In case you use VMs for productive work I would stick to a working earlier version.
Its also a reasonable strategy to test a new build inside a VM first.
> Noting new is broken ...
I am not sure wether the developers are aware of what we long time users assume to work ...
Have not seen any
demos these days
Ulli
Ulli,
LOVE the hat idea! I think it needs the old 'boxes' logo, though, from back in the time when WS really *was* great.