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Fusion 12 Pro on MacPro 5.1 not working

Hello,

has anybody tried or running Fusion 12 Pro on a Mac Pro 5.1 (cMP5.1)?

I installed Big Sur on my cMP5.1 and therefore had to use Fusion 12 Pro, but when I want to start a VM Fusion says the "CPU does not support XSAVE" and prohibits the start of the VM (no matter if it is Windows, Linux or macOS as guest). The CPU is a Xeon X5690 (2x). 

Before I was running Catalina with Fusion 11.5.6 and everything worked! Does anybody has experience with it?

Screenshot is below (in German)!

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@kalle2 

No idea when that Mac was released, but you should check this: https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2005196

 


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Hi,

I don't think it is going to work.
See also this thread:
https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/VMX-option-to-disable-use-of-XSAVE-instr...

Now.. there's always a small chance that VMware is going to fix this.
As it is they have just fixed an issue for running nested VM's on Big Sur.. so who knows.

FWIW that update -fixing nested on BS- is expected to be released later today (end of the day PST), so I would certainly give it another try on Fusion 12.1

But, don't have your hopes up too high.

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Hello @scott28tt,

if you read the system requirements provided in the link by you, there is written: 

  • All Macs launched in 2012 or later are supported except for the following:
    2012 Mac Pro Quad Core using the Intel® Xeon® W3565 Processor.

My Mac Pro 5.1 is from 2012, and the CPU's are 2x X5690 (6-core), so I read from this that my MacPro5.1 will be supported by Fusion 12. In the German version of the system requirements is the same text.

So there is something wrong with the docs?

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Hi,

I'm not Scott, but my guess is "most likely something wrong with the docs" on this. ( @Mikero can you get this fixed, once you're back from PTO? )

With Big Sur, VMware Fusion is now using apple's Hypervisor Framework and that means details on CPU dependencies have changed.

FWIW, Fusion 12.1 is just out ( https://vmware.com/go/getfusion )

and I'm not seeing anything in the release notes about this, but you might still be lucky.

Worth a shot.
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Wil

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Hello @wila,

updating to Fusion 12.1 did not change anything, so there will be no way to get Fusion 12 working on cMP5.1 !?

Think I should change to Parallels 16, the test version is at least working ....

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Hi,

Sadly only VMware can tell you.
The only thing I can say is that if the new version does not work on your MacPro 5.1 then I suspect that support won't be added back.
So -yes- I think that your best bet at the moment is Parallels if you still want to continue using that host for virtual machines (and I don't see why you wouldn't)

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Virtuoso
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The Mac Pro 5.1 is not supported for both macOS Catalina and Big Sur by Apple. For the Mac Pro line, only the trash can (2013) and cheese grater (2019) are supported. In a roundabout way, Fusion 12.x is not supported for it as it supports either Catalina or Big Sur as the macOS host OS.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210222
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211238
https://kb.vmware.com/s/article/2088571

You could switch to Parallels 16 but there is no telling what other problems you will encounter there.

The XSAVE instruction was introduced with the Sandy Bridge generation of CPUs; the Xeon X5690 (Westmere) is one generation behind. Even for Big Sur OS, it looks like the Mac models with Sandy Bridge CPUs are no longer supported (2012 and earlier models are absent from the list).

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Hello @bluefirestorm , @wila , @scott28tt ,

as I mentioned in the discussion

https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Discussions/VMX-option-to-disable-use-of-XSAVE-instr...

the test version of Parallels 16 does work on my cMP5.1 / Big Sur combination without installing kext's , so for me it seems that there is a way to run VM's on this host with the Apple hypervisor / system extensions ... 

Fusion 12.1 still has the same issue with XSAVE, so VMWare won't change that anymore !? ...

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Given that the OS itself isn't supported, and requires actions that be technical violations of Apples EULA, I wouldn't count on it.  The Mac Pro 5,1 is ten years old at this point.  Probably time to upgrade.

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