I followed the guide for setting up VCB (previously we were doing LAN backups) so we put together a machine with a Fiber HBA, installed vRanger all the plug-ins everything works great.
I made sure that I ran automount disable and automount scrub, the machine is 2003 Windows 32-bit, it's brand new SP2 all patches. I tried this setup 3 different times, trying various driver combinations thinking there was a problem with the drivers, but I get the same result.
The problem is when I reboot this machine. ALL the LUNS (that are mapped to this HBA) go offline (which causes some distress considering we have 400 VM's on these LUNs). Otherwise everything works perfect. I tried SAN surfer (Qlogic Fiber HBA) without SAN Surfer, I tried Windows Fiber Card drivers.. all the combinations have the same result, so this must be a problem with VCB.
So my question is what I can do to prevent this HBA in this machine from dropping the LUNs everytime I want to reboot this machine? It may not be a problem now considering I made sure there should be no reboots any time soon, but I want to fix this before I go out of town (in case someone else get's an idea).
So what is causing the LUNs to drop on a reboot? Obviously I can't remove the mapping I need access to the LUNs, but this is odd.
Are you using any kind of multipathing software? Neither VCB or vRanger play very nicely with this. We ended up configuring the vRanger server with 2 HBA's, one going directly to the VMFS LUNs (single path) and one going directly to a NTFS LUN (single path).
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Jason D. Langdon
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Are you using any kind of multipathing software? Neither VCB or vRanger play very nicely with this. We ended up configuring the vRanger server with 2 HBA's, one going directly to the VMFS LUNs (single path) and one going directly to a NTFS LUN (single path).
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Jason D. Langdon
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yes, but it's built into our SAN (Netapp 3070). There are 2 head units, and they can see each other's path, so when presented to the switch it looks like 2 paths, and there is no way to get around it. So I am stuck huh?
Can you zone the fabric so that the head units cannot see each others LUNS? My DS4800 is a 2 head unit with four paths (two to each fabric). I've implemented masking at the fabric level.
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Jason D. Langdon
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Can you zone the fabric so that the head units cannot see each others LUNS? My DS4800 is a 2 head unit with four paths (two to each fabric). I've implemented masking at the fabric level.
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Jason D. Langdon
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There are 2 ways you can cluster SAN on Netapp, that's one way, and the other is to have a dedicated link between them so when the Filer goes down there is seamless access to the LUN's. no delay in the Fiber access either since both paths are active. Netapp advised us that there are issues either way, and we all agreed that this way was much better. But now there just seems to be a problem with VCB, and it's not any faster anyway. I can go back to LAN backups, it was much easier, less hassle, and same speed, so that's what I will do.
Besides I can't run 64-bit and I wanted to make this backup machine a multi purpose Windows 2008 64-bit, so now I can, and use my previous machine for backups. I thought that VCB and SAN backup would make things faster, but it's just more trouble than its worth. I was advised at VM World this was the 'preferred' solution, but I don't see the benefit, other than taking load off the ESX servers.. but it's only network traffic, not a big deal and it's not really noticeable. Thanks for the help, but I am just going to go back to the other method.. and with vRanger I can't get a status of the backup. All I can see is success, but no time, no details unless I pull up the report. If I use LAN backup I can write my VM notes again with the backup details, and I can see at a glance when they were last backed up, I like that MUCH better
Besides I can't run 64-bit and I wanted to make this backup machine a multi purpose Windows 2008 64-bit, so now I can, and use my previous machine for backups. I thought that VCB and SAN backup would make things faster, but it's just more trouble than its worth. I was advised at VM World this was the 'preferred' solution, but I don't see the benefit, other than taking load off the ESX servers.. but it's only network traffic, not a big deal and it's not really noticeable. Thanks for the help, but I am just going to go back to the other method.. and with vRanger I can't get a status of the backup. All I can see is success, but no time, no details unless I pull up the report. If I use LAN backup I can write my VM notes again with the backup details, and I can see at a glance when they were last backed up, I like that MUCH better
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One thing to remember with LAN based backups is that you create more than network traffic on the ESX host. Most important is that you create considerable CPU and memory overhead at the console level. Depending upon the number of CPU's in your host and whether or not you have any VM's on that box that have multiple Virtulal CPU's you could possibly impact virtual machine performance as well during a LAN backup.
I don't know if this response is too late, but try restarting the "vmware virtual mounter extended" service. I've run into an issue where this service starts before all the luns have been scanned after a reboot and then some or all the vcb backups fail. Restarting this service after a reboot has fixed it for me.