Thin- / Zero-Client Suggestion

[vMario156]

Hi all,

actually I am looking, which would be a good end device for an VDI setup with View 5.0.

I really like these all in one solutions, like Samsung Syncmaster TC240 etc. My requirements are PCoIP support and full View 5 compatible. Also I need a solution, where I can connect a second screen for a multi-monitor setup.

As far as I got it right, MMR support doesn´t matter if you are using Win 7 as desktop OS, right?

Which kind of hardware are you using with your View 5.0 environment?

Any suggestions on products or also suggestions about products which I shouldn´t take (because of bad expericance etc.)

Thanks!

Regards,

Mario

[vSolid]

Hi vMario

     For end point devices there are many companies who actullay good in this matter like

Wyse http://www.wyse.com/   OR 10zig http://www.10zig.com/ OR even HP or Dell as well, and all of those are in Thin Client case

but Zero client there is only one of the best companies in this Pano Logic http://www.panologic.com

as zero client in LAN, it's recommanded to use for low TCO (Total Cost of OwnerShip) becoz some thin Client are nearllay cost as new PC or may higher

we use both 10zig in WAN , witch is some kind good, and Pano Logic and from my view it's one of best Zero client products in my life

here my document try to see what I'm trying to saying to you

I hope this can help you to support what you want you to do in your project mate

vSolid

[vSolid]

Sorry, Also there reason to go with Zero client is because when you try to change from VMware view to Citrix or Citrix to VMware

you don't need to change the zero client, all of thin Client come with VMware Ready or Citrix HDX Ready

put this in your consideration.

BR

vSolid

[vMario156]

Hi vSolid,

thanks for your respone.

I just took a look on the Pano Logic Zero Client, which seems not to supporting PCoIP and is also not listed on the HCL for View 5.0. Some month ago I tested a Zero Client from Fujitsu (DZ22-2), which was using the Pano Logic Controller, which didn´t came into consideration because of the missing PCoIP support.

But I really liked the Fujitsu Hardware Design (Zero Client and Monitor all in one device), so I came to the Samsung model I mentioned before, because its a simular design but PCoIP is supported.

May someone have experiance with that one?

P.S: You mentioned an document. Did you forget to attach / link it ?

Regards,

Mario

[eeg3]

We have had great success with the EVGA PD02. It's low cost, small form-factor, and has been reliable.

I would always recommend zero clients over thin clients. The experience is better.

[vSolid]

sorry mate, but we have Pano logic the 2 gen from Pano Logic and also TrainSignal use it just ask David in Twit

it's supported for PCoIP & HDX of Citrix and that why I told you when you think to change you VDI product from VMware to Citrix or Citrix to VMware you don't need to think about the end point devices.

try to check the wyse website http://www.wyse.com/products/cloud-clients/zero-clients/Xenith , you will notice that some of those thin OR even Zero client devices are supported only Citrix and other supported only VMware, in Zero client with Pano logic you don't put your self in corner becoz you are free

I thought I sent the document, but here we go mate, sorry I late in reply

BR

vSolid

[vSolid · Accepted solution]

sorry, there is an issue in attaching a file, I think because the upgrade of VMware web site

but I will listed here to read it dir

Thin Client VS Zero Client (Compare)

Department	Feature	Thin	Zero	Discretion
Facility & Finance	Cost	Med	Low	Thin   client can be customized their parts like add more RAM or have SDD instance   of HD, and because that some Thin Client can cost as New PC
	Heating	Med	Low	Thin client has many parts   inside it.
	power   consumption	Med	Low	Zero   Clients has no additional parts like thin Client so it’s consume less power   than Thin client.
	Noise	Low	Non	Since there is no HD, Fan or   even a CPU zero client has no noise come from it
IT & Security	H/W   Removing parts	Yes	No	Removing   H/W will reduce the life time of end-point devices
	Update Firmware	Yes	Yes	Need to update firmware from   time to time
	Update   OS	Yes	No	Thin   client use windows embedded OS or Other OS, the update need to perform when   the update release from vender
	Maintains	Yes	No	Sometimes the HD in thin client   crash or the RAM is damage, the maintains is required just as Traditional PC   or laptop
	Manage	Yes	No	The   OS inside Thin need to be manage by a third part tools
	Anti-Virus Install	Yes	No	Thin Client has OS, an anti-virus   need to install to protect operating system
	Security	Yes	No	Need   to Secure OS by applying the latest update and GPO
	PCoIP Supported	Yes	yes	Both of Thin & Zero client are   supported PCoIP for VMware View, need to check the vendero to see the supported of PCoIP
	Productive (Boot   Up)	Yes	No	Zero   Clients save you time by never needing to boot up
	Join to Domain	Yes	No	Zero client has no OS, so it’s   can’t be in domain
	Bluetooth   support	Yes	?	I'm not sure about this one in Zero client

[vSolid]

Dear vMario, Hi

I review the VMware HCL for View Client, the Pano logic G1 & G2 are supported

would you please check again

http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/search.php

BR

vSolid

[vSolid]

see the attached file, if not present then check this web site for full study of zero client

http://go2.panologic.com/SarrelGR

[LerxstIsAwesome]

Hi,

I'll chime in here.  If you're going to be solely a View shop with PCoIP as your protocol of choice, go with zero clients.  There's enough vendor choice out there right now for you to pick a vendor and/or form factor you like (all in one Teridici chip & LCD, or separate), & be satisfied with the results.  If you choose mulitple vendors endpoints with the Teridici 1100P, you'll be able to mange them all from one console.

http://www.teradici.com/pcoip/pcoip-technology/pcoip-management-console.php

We standardized on Samsung NC240's & 190's:

http://www.samsung.com/ca/consumer/office/monitors/lcd/LF24PPBCB/ZA

http://www.samsung.com/us/business/cloud-displays/LF19PPBCBNA/ZA

We've been happy thus far.  Hope this helps, good luck!

[Chad09]

I'm curious about those samsungs, did you hook a speaker bar or anything to them for audio or some other method?

[LerxstIsAwesome]

Just some inexpensive Logitech bookshelf speakers.

[Chad09]

Thanks for the response.

I noticed that the two samsungs you linked have a different ammount of memory, 64 vs 128. Have you noticed any difference between the two performance wise?

[LerxstIsAwesome]

No, haven't noticed any.  We spec models based on screen size requirements for the staff in question.  The memory footprint for the teridici chip is pretty small, I'd assume.

[vMario156]

Thank you all very much for the responses. This was very helpfull for me!

Regards,

Mario