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thomasross
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Separate vCenter Server for VDI environemnt?

Should I install a separate vCenter Server for a new View 4.5 VDI environment?

View 4.5 can potentially grow to about 3,000 users, although it will start with a pilot and after that start adding probably a hundred or so users at a time.

Our current vmware environemnt is vCenter 4.0 Update 2, although I am considering upgrading that to 4.1

We currently have a small VMware envronment with about 30 hosts and approximately 400 VMs

I was thinkng it might be good to have vCenter for our VDI environemnt running in a cluster in our existing vCenter environemnt.

Would it make sense to link our vCenters if we do have two?

Any thoughts on this?

Has someone has expereince with a VDI environment about this size?

Thanks!!

Tom

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eeg3
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I prefer to run a separate vCenter instance. Our deployment is much smaller than yours, and we run it separate because it provides isolation of the environments, allows us to schedule maintenance and not affect both environments, and because VMware has lagged behind making View completely compatible with the latest versions of vSphere in the past (e.g. vSphere 4.1 requiring 64-bit Windows when Composer wouldn't run under 64-bit.)

Especially in an environment as large as yours, I would run it separately.

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eeg3
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I prefer to run a separate vCenter instance. Our deployment is much smaller than yours, and we run it separate because it provides isolation of the environments, allows us to schedule maintenance and not affect both environments, and because VMware has lagged behind making View completely compatible with the latest versions of vSphere in the past (e.g. vSphere 4.1 requiring 64-bit Windows when Composer wouldn't run under 64-bit.)

Especially in an environment as large as yours, I would run it separately.

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Licensing also plays a role. How are you purchasing View? It may come with a vcenter server license which works for the number of view desktops you purchased.

There are many performance factors to consider in your design too as view recomposes are very intense on the vcenter and sql server database machines when you have to tear down and rebuild hundreds of systems.

I agree with Tom on his points. Security is a big reason to have a separate vcenter.

Change management for desktops is typically handled much differently that it is for servers.

Will you use the Cisco Nexus 1000v switch? This would allow the view network to be managed by the network team and secured against many attacks like someone setting up a rogue DHCP server.

They can be linked together with Linked mode but I'd recommend using a security device like the HyTrust Appliance to control access to the vcenter and hypervisor management plane.

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View 4.5 is 64 bit and fully supported on Windows 2008 R2 and vCenter 4.1.

Use 64 bit SQL Server 2008 R2 too! for smaller pilot test environments sql server express 2008 r2 is fine and you can take a downtime hit to move over to full sql server 2008 r2 later.

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at this size, i would do two vcenter. if you have purchase bundle version, it's included FOC. i would let the vcenter/esx for desktop to be taken care by the desktop team.

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chaz112182
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i have a much smaller environment than you do and also decided to use a seperate vCenter for view.  this has worked without a hitch for us so far we currently have about 200 desktops in production.     

thomasross
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Thanks,

You and everyone else is confirming my inclination on this.

Tom

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thomasross
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We are interested in the Cisco 1000v , we have not implemente it yet, though.

It sounds like this would be a good environemnt to use this in .

Tom

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