Just wondering if anyone has been looking for terminals that support PC over IP. I spoke to my Wyse rep and what I found out is that VMware hasn't released the APIs yet for PCoIP so they have their hands tied. The other problem they foresee is that the Wyse V10L (the terminal I was hoping to use) only has an 800Mhz processor and PCoverIP protocol requires a 1Ghz processor.
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This is not entirely accurate. It looks like you got some misinformation. I am sorry about that. Hopefully this will help clarify things.
- We have an API that several partners ( Sun, Panologic, HP, WYSE, Teradici etc. ) have used to integrate devices for which we do not have a native " VMware View Client " that API depends on an underlying client component to handle the specific connectivity ( RDP, PCoIP etc.) so its not that useful without a client component.
- Currently the PCoIP client component exists in several forms. One being hardware based PCoIP clients the other, VMware View software clients for which there is a Win32 and Linux client.
- WTOS is a custom built OS so the client components, including any current or feature dependent components need to be ported to that custom OS. This is the part we working toward with the WYSE product team.
- A 1Ghz processor is not required. The hardware requirements or recomendations are driven by the current and future feature functionality you might want, they also are not entirely CPU driven. For example, multimonitor, MMR, USB redirection etc.. We do see different levels of performance and user experiance based on both the client processing power as well as the chip implementation ATOM vs. Sempron vs. VIA vs. ARM etc. This is not anything new really with thin clients though.
Also, if you look at the thin clients released over the last 12 months. Very few thin clients today ship with less than a 1Ghz / 512MB spec.
This is off the top of my head so it could be slightly off. Sorry if it is.... I think its helpful to know though
- Currently WYSE has 33 thin client models
- 28 are deskside models
- 5 are mobile / laptop clients
- Of the 33 models WTOS is only supported on 3 of them
- 18 of their models should be capable of running the VMware View client with PCoIP
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Yes, absolutely .... Anything that uses the " VMware View Client "
- Currently the win32 VMware View Client with PCoIP supports Windows fat client OSes as well as XPe and WES
- The Linux client is in the hands of all the thin client partners and we are wrapping up some final things as they complete integration. Some, that have custom OSs that are more Linux variants have taken the Linux client integrated as needed. One example is DeTOS from Devon IT.
- There are also a whole suite of PCoIP hardware zero clients ( P20 from WYSE, Clear Cube, Devon IT, Dell, Samsung, Amulet, EVGA, Leadtec, Samsung, ELSA, etc. ) a firmware update will be available soon for devices from all these partners that enable hardware clients to work with View using PCoIP.
I've got a trial of View 4 running and can connect with PCoIP from my thick client.
What I'm wondering about is the Samsung 930ND we're testing with. It supports PCoIP but doesn't connect to our connection server - will it need a firmware upgrade to work with view 4?
Any word on when the Teradici update will be released? We are trying to test the Samsung 930ND PCoIP with View 4. We are able to connect via RDP but not PCoIP. The Firmware version currently loaded is below.
Firmware Version: 1.10
Firmware Build: v184
Firmware Build Date: Dec 23, 2008
PCoIP Processor Revision: 1.0
Bootloader Version: 2.1
Bootloader Build: v112
Bootloader Build Date: Mar 10, 2008
Great, thanks for the info. Did you find a way to make your Samsung 930ND work with PCoIP without the firmware update or do you think that the update will be required in order for it to connect?
Also, did the Teradici guy make any promises that it would work with View 4? I had just assumed considering their recent partnership...
Hi Dan, In this firmware there will be a auto-connect function but not a auto-login function. So, a portal will auto-connect to View and present a login but the user will still need to enter UN/PW etc. for this release.
Thanks Warren. My deployment won't be happening for 5 months, but unfortunately I have to select an endpoint device this month for our bid process. Can you tell me if auto-login is a planned addition and if so when that might happen?
I just spoke with Wyse today - their sales reps are having a training meeting tomorrow and will know the details, but apparently the P20 device is releasing very soon - it has the chip built-in and natively supports PCoIP
Thats exactly what I heard, however I do believe that's an XPe or Linux device not WTOS. The WTOS with built in PCoIP has a later release date and won't be the P series and may be a release all it's own (like the Viance), at least that's what I heard from my Wyse contact.
Hey guys, I can't begin to say how helpful this community is! Re: the P20, it's stateless PCoIP hardware and so no OS, just firmware. Whenever a WTOS unit comes out it will definitely be new/different model.