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RajuVCP
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Comparision VMware View and Xen Desktop

Hi All,

Am in very big dilemma, that which technology to use, as in my orgaization we are planning to use VDI Technology,

its about Virtualizing 2000 Desktop and 10,000 Desktop in Future(if it gets success)

i have implemented VMware View at my home test lab, and its working fine,it seems tobe good,

but my management want the comparision between VMware View and XenDesktop. XenDesktop i never used, i dont even have seen how XenDesktop Admin console looks,

Does any one have good ppt  about the Comparision between VMware View and XenDesktop.

And if some one also used both the technology, which you have feeled much better ,

i really need your suggestion.

Regards

Raju Gunnal

http://tech2solution.blogspot.com

Raju Gunnal VCP 4, VCP 5, VTSP 4, VTSP 5, ITIL V3 http://www.techtosolution.com
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idle-jam
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do you have access to partner portal? there are alot of information there ..

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RajuVCP
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Thanks Friend,

I got a call from my friend , the next momemt i posted these thread , and i have logged into the partner site. Downloaded amazing PPT and PDF on view and xendesktop comparision.

Regards

Raju Gunnal

http://tech2solution.blogspot.com

Raju Gunnal VCP 4, VCP 5, VTSP 4, VTSP 5, ITIL V3 http://www.techtosolution.com
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idle-jam
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I'm glad that you managed to find the right doc. gd luck.

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Borat_Sagdiev
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The difficult thing here is getting an honest technical opinion.  I work for a VAR that deals with both products and often we are asked to compare, but most of the comparison papers are skewed by factors other than technology.  Also, asking this question in a VMware forum is going to produce some one-sided answers.  The best advice that I can provide is: examine what matters to you most. If you are in a high latency or low bandwidth WAN situation Citrix' ICA protocol will perform better and I challenge anyone to give me facts that prove otherwise. View on the other hand offers excellent performance over a LAN and is in some ways easier to administer.  Check some posts on brianmadden.com.

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PCoIPinsider
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To Borat’s point – it’s important to establish requirements.

The subject of WAN performance is akin to the age old Pepsi vs. Coke debate. I’d encourage you to perform tests yourself rather than rely on blog postings or market reports based on outdated releases and non-optimum protocol settings. Also, I represent Teradici so don’t take my word at face value either.

On the first issue raised of high latency -  You’ll easily be able demonstrate for yourself a variety of cases actually favoring PCoIP performance here.  A simple test I’d suggest is to introduce a noticeable delay (e.g. 150-200 ms) into your network, and:

a) Play a 480p or 720p Quicktime video; b) Play a 480p or 720p YouTube video; c) Browse a few FLASH-rich web sites. 

The comparative client frame rates, Flash interactivity and difference in image tearing between the two platforms speak for themselves in the above tests. If you choose a zero client over a thin client, some of these advantages are more marked.  Follow this link to see a few scenarios in which a PCoIP client is accessed over a network of 200mS latency: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF0aOawt4u0

On the other issue raised of low bandwidth performance -  An active MS Office desktop might need 150 kbps on average. This is somewhat application dependent, indeed some existing PCoIP deployments use less than 100 kbps on average. Those with multimedia generally need more.  Again, I’d recommend you experience the performance for yourself under your specified constraints.  Please note, when bandwidth or packet loss are key factors, its important to follow the VMWare VIEW Optimization guidelines. Unlike Xendesktop’s HDX, PCoIP adjusts to the available (or configured) bandwidth so that user experience is maximized. A side-by-side bandwidth comparative becomes flawed unless the PCoIP link rate is explicitly capped. You’ll likely come across some erroneous publications to this effect.

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On a final note, client device performance plays a role too – For example, the following side-by-side setup shows View 4.5 on a zero client next to an equivalent priced Xendesktop 4 thin client system:   http://www.youtube.com/user/TeradiciLabs#p/a/u/2/2Dh_6mxtb98

Good luck!

Ian

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idle-jam
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thanks for sharing the post, i find it really interesting and useful.

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eeg3
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You're obviously going to get a lot of bias here, but I do think VMware View is the best solution. As far as end-user experience goes, in my opinion it is pretty similar.

Management-wise and server-side, VMware is leaps and bounds better. XenDesktop's management interfaces are very hodge-podge and kludgy, and their methods of doing things just seem poorly thought out.

Both have demos. Try them both out if you have time. I think that's the best way you'll see that View is better.

Blog: http://blog.eeg3.net
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Borat_Sagdiev
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So you think that provisioning via snapshots ie: linked clones is a better scaling, better performing delivery mechanism than the vDisk/ Ardens Provisioning Server that Citrix uses? What would you do for DR purposes for Linked Clones? View does have a great interface on version 4.5 and higher, prior to that - not so much. XD is more difficult to administer and its interfaceS should be slimmed and repackaged into one. It all comes down to what matters for you and what your users need.

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eeg3
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Ardence/Citrix Provisioning Server is a poor method of delivery that was not designed originally for this purpose. Having to set up PXE booting, etc. is a pretty inelegant method of delivery as opposed to VMware's hypervisor tie-in. UDDs have upsides and downsides, but either way you can use nonpersistent pools in View, as well.

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RajuVCP
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Hi All,

Thanks for wonderfull suggestions, and testing idea,

Thanks lan,, for providing the tips how to test both the product performance,

I really got an valuable information from you friends.

Regards

Raju Gunnal

http://tech2solution.blogspot.com

Raju Gunnal VCP 4, VCP 5, VTSP 4, VTSP 5, ITIL V3 http://www.techtosolution.com
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