VMware fusion - BSOD issue swaping between VMware and Microsoft RdP - macOS Sonoma

[AveCezar]

macOS Sonoma installed. VMWare Fusion 13 installed (tech preview ver)

Since a month BSOD every time:
1) vmware open successfully
2) Win11 open successfully
3) now I open MS RDP - successfully, swap to open Win11
4) I am working (office, other programs) successfully
4) then, after an hour, I am disconnecting MS RDP, coming back to VMWare Fusion
5) screen is locked (expected), after entering password -> desktop open successfully (until now everything as expected)
6) now, after a couple of seconds, BSOD is happening -> every time after above scenario (1) - 5)
Please note anything was not changed in configuration, I was working such way since February, and until August everything was working properly i e 1)-5)
Win11 (Pro, 25947.1000 rs_prerelease build), MacOS_Sonoma, VMware Fusion Professional Version e.x.p (22068932) - all newest installed
In win11 -> sfc /scannow, DISM/online/cleanup-image/restorehealth -> no issues
Frequency -> everytime

(memory dump file C:\Windows is too large to attach)

can anybody help ?

[Technogeezer]

A few comments

What Mac are you running?

Canary builds are probably the least stable of all Microsoft Insider builds, so it’s not surprising that you might encounter a BSOD. And the Windows build you are using was just released last week.

What is the code reported in BSOD message? 

You do not have Fusion 13 installed. You have the Fusion 2023 Tech Preview which is a public beta of the next Fusion version. I have asked that a moderator move this to the Tech Preview Discussions forum.

as a note, you are running a beta Sonoma operating system with beta Fusion and an alpha version of Windows  what could go wrong? And lots has changed. For example that Windows version was released last week. The system is drastically different now than it was in February because Sonoma and the Tech Preview did not exist until July  

Was that VM upgraded from a version that ran on Fusion 13, or was it built fresh when the Canary build was installed? 

Have you tried this with the release channel version of Windows 11 (currently 22621.2283)?

[AveCezar]

Technogeezer

 thank you for comments

answers are given below:

1) Macbook Pro 14", 16GB/1TB M1

2) yes, but I have been using canary since May, and up to the end of July everything was working properly

3) attached

4) I had Fusion 13 installed, swiched to Tech preview 2 weeks ago, hoping it will help, On Fusion 13 (stable, updated ver) it was also BSOD since August

5) true, but since the end of July there were 3 or 4 releases (big updates) and under all was BSOD

6) Tech was upgraded from a version that ran on Fusion 13 -> but please refer to 4)

7) no

maybe it is sonoma fault, but I was working fine through the week or two on Sonoma in July....

[Technogeezer]

So you're running Windows 11 ARM Insider Canary build on an Apple Silicon Mac.

If it worked before July, and you installed Windows updates when running on Fusion 13 and it had issues there, it more likely it's :

• An issue with the Canary builds, 
• An issue with one of the VMware drivers
• or both (interaction of something Microsoft changed that impacts a VMware driver) 

rather than an issue with Sonoma. 

Question: where did you get the installation media for the Canary build? Did you get it from uupdump.net, and if so, on what platform did you build it? Hopefully you built the media on Windows and not macOS as 

You have way too many moving parts here, and it's not clear that while you upgraded Fusion, you did not say whether you built new VMs, attempted to run the old one, or have performed upgrade installations of Windows in a VM along the way.

I'd simplify things here to reproduce.

First, I'd build a new VM with a released Windows 11 ARM build and see if you can reproduce. Obtain a Windows 11 ARM 22H2 ISO with CrystalFetch (free from the Mac App Store) from Microsoft's ESD distribution, and use that for a brand new VM installation. Then install the VMware Tools present in the Tech Preview per either VMware's Tech Preview Testing Guide or the Unofficial 2023 Tech Preview Companion Guide (found in this forum).  

If you can't reproduce with that, then build a brand new VM with a Canary channel build from uupdump.net (but build it on a Windows system, not macOS). Once installed, then install VMware Tools from the Tech Preview.

The issue with trying to get VMware to look at a canary build is that they'll be much more interested in things that are impacting software that Microsoft actually distributes to its users and that the vast majority of users will see when they finally move to the next released Fusion version. 

There are some issues that VMware knows about with their drivers in the Tech Preview. Those won't likely be fixed until the official release.

May I ask why you're running a canary build? That's bleeding edge.

[AveCezar]

Paul (Technogeezer), thank you for your time and support

In February 2023, I didn't know about UUP Dump (which is a pity) and I signed up for the Microsoft Insiders program, downloading the shared version of Win 11. Initially, it was a simplified version (not DEV) - I don't remember the name. Then the downloaded version required conversion to the WMVare format (vmfs, while the downloaded version was probably vmdk or something - under Hyper-V anyway). After installation, it turned out that some functions did not work, e.g. Microsoft defender, RDP and others. So I downloaded it again - this time in the DEV version and these functions worked. Unfortunately, I could only download it in the ENG language version (MS did not provide any others) and I cannot change it now (unless a clean installation). Now why canary: I launched the environment in the DEV version on February 24, 2023 and noticed that until the beginning of April I did not received even a single Windows update (while on PCs there were 2 updates on the way). So I changed the ver preview Dev Channel to Canary - elevenforum.com/t/change-windows-insider-program-channel-in-windows-11.795/ Since then, there have been updates every now and then.... In addition, Outlook does not work at all time Windows Search function: I've tried everything. Interestingly, Outlook -> options -> search: Outlook is in the list of system options, as is Onenote. If I close this window and open it again but through Windows Settings -> Pivacy -> searching... Outlook is not on the list, same as Onenote, rebuilding the index, advanced options and everything else, including office repair, does not help (I spent hours and read on forms of everything that was). I tried everything woshub.com/fix-outlook-2016-search-not-working/. It makes my work very difficult because the only workaround was turning off Windows search through the registry https://winaero.com/a-search-bug-prevents -windows-11-from-indexing-outlook-mail/ but now the search in Oultook takes forever.... I don't know if it's related to the fact that I have the initially downloaded language version of Windows 11 in the ENG version, and I switched to Polish in the settings (because that's the language I use). I hoped that the new versions of Canary would help, because each new version requires a new installation of Windows (windows_old directory is created). But nothing helps. Now when I try to download the ISO from UUP Dump, I can "replace" Windows but only if I lose data, which I do not want to do (re-installation and configuration of all programs takes about 1 day and 1 night). Perhaps the only solution is to download a clean installation immediately in the POL (not ENG) version from UUP Dump and install everything again. As for the BSOD, I changed VMware to Tech previwe, hoping that the BSOD would go away when switching from MS RDP to MacOS. Anyway, thank you for your suggestions, I really like virtual machines, I think it's the future, but I'm just learning this environment. For example, the installation of Win required a bypass via oobe\bypassnro and M Roy showed on YouTube that you can first install VMWare tools (then the Internet is available during Windows installation).