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gallagauge
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esxi 5 free hypervisor?

I saw that there is a new version of esxi (version 5).

Will there be a version 5 of the free VMware vSphere Hypervisor or is this product going to stay at version 4.1?

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tschuld
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Those are the Beta/NDA folks.

Best rumor is sometime before VMWorld 2011 in Las Vegas (August 29th) but the pessimist in me thinks they'll wait until August 29th so that everyone is "out" when the vmware.com site gets crushed from all the downloads.  :smileylaugh:

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LucasAlbers
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The vmare engineer at a recent vmware dog and pony show mentioned the 22nd.

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wdroush1
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Todd wrote:

Those are the Beta/NDA folks.

Best rumor is sometime before VMWorld 2011 in Las Vegas (August 29th) but the pessimist in me thinks they'll wait until August 29th so that everyone is "out" when the vmware.com site gets crushed from all the downloads.  :smileylaugh:

Signs a NDA, discloses everything.

Smiley Wink

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GVD
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LucasAlbers wrote:

The vmare engineer at a recent vmware dog and pony show mentioned the 22nd.

Licensing costs will be modified on the 22nd of August. As such, I think it's highly likely that we'll see the official release of vSphere 5.0 on that date as well. Since Hypervisor 5.0 is a free product, it's not necessarily released on the same day though, but it'd be weird if that were not the case.

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roglar
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GVD wrote:

Licensing costs will be modified on the 22nd of August.

Did you get that information from VMware? That should be the vSphere 5 licensing?

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GVD
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roglar wrote:

GVD wrote:

Licensing costs will be modified on the 22nd of August.

Did you get that information from VMware? That should be the vSphere 5 licensing?

From a partner.

And yes, that will be vSphere 5 licensing, but that also means that if you want to downgrade to 4.1, you'll still be paying 5.0 prices.

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JohnADCO
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Simple question......     I het reply to, but this is not addressed to anybody in particular....

We run free ESXi with 2 physical procs, 12 cores, 64GB of ram.

Would I just need to by one "Standard" stand alone license for this host to continue working on ESXi?

If so......

What is the cost of one stand alone Standard license?

Our most common hosts, even in our Enterprise data center are 2 procs, 12 cores, 64GB ram.    So I think this is OK under the new licensing.  Right now, it's the normal 6 CPU 4.1 license.  Even if this was essentials, we would be OK as well correct?

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wdroush1
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JohnADCO wrote:

Simple question......     I het reply to, but this is not addressed to anybody in particular....

We run free ESXi with 2 physical procs, 12 cores, 64GB of ram.

Would I just need to by one "Standard" stand alone license for this host to continue working on ESXi?

If so......

What is the cost of one stand alone Standard license?

Our most common hosts, even in our Enterprise data center are 2 procs, 12 cores, 64GB ram.    So I think this is OK under the new licensing.  Right now, it's the normal 6 CPU 4.1 license.  Even if this was essentials, we would be OK as well correct?

You'll need to buy two (for the two physical processors) minimum.

That also only gets you 64GB of vRAM, so if you're overallocating or have TPS you're missing out on pRAM usage.

Standard licenses run $995 each IIRC.

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My guess at Vmware pricing today, they will want 10 million per server

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I don't know about you guys, but the download link below is live for me, though you need to be both registered and logged in.

https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/p/activate.php?p=free-esxi&lp=1

Scroll down and expand the binaries line, and you have under manual download links

1. VMware-VMvisor-Installer-5.0.0-469512.x86_64.iso

     the ESXi 5 installer ISO

     https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/p/activate.php?p=free-esxi&lp=1&a=DOWNLOAD_FILE&baseurl=https://dow...

2. VMware-viclient-all-5.0.0-455964.exe

     the new vSphere client

     https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/p/activate.php?p=free-esxi&lp=1&a=DOWNLOAD_FILE&baseurl=https://dow...

3. VMware-tools-linux-8.6.0-425873.iso

     the new linux tools ISO

     https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/p/activate.php?p=free-esxi&lp=1&a=DOWNLOAD_FILE&baseurl=https://dow...

There goes the rest of this week and my weekend...

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GregecSLO
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Hi!

Is this free hypervisor as well?

Will license key for 4.1 work with it?

Regards,

Greg

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GVD
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JohnADCO wrote:

Simple question......     I het reply to, but this is not addressed to anybody in particular....

We run free ESXi with 2 physical procs, 12 cores, 64GB of ram.

Would I just need to by one "Standard" stand alone license for this host to continue working on ESXi?

If so......

What is the cost of one stand alone Standard license?

Our most common hosts, even in our Enterprise data center are 2 procs, 12 cores, 64GB ram.    So I think this is OK under the new licensing.  Right now, it's the normal 6 CPU 4.1 license.  Even if this was essentials, we would be OK as well correct?

Free ESXi (now called Hypervisor 5.0) cannot support 2 pCPU with 6 cores each and 64 GB pRAM.

The cheapest way to cover such a machine is a "normal" Essentials kit. If you try to cover it with "normal" Standard licenses, you'll need 2.

If your datacenter is covered with one standard license per CPU, you are indeed covered for this scenario.

Asteroza wrote:

I don't know about you guys, but the download link below is live for me, though you need to be both registered and logged in.

https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/p/activate.php?p=free-esxi&lp=1

Scroll down and expand the binaries line, and you have under manual download links

1. VMware-VMvisor-Installer-5.0.0-469512.x86_64.iso

     the ESXi 5 installer ISO

     https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/p/activate.php?p=free-esxi&lp=1&a=DOWNLOAD_FILE&baseurl=https://dow...

2. VMware-viclient-all-5.0.0-455964.exe

     the new vSphere client

     https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/p/activate.php?p=free-esxi&lp=1&a=DOWNLOAD_FILE&baseurl=https://dow...

3. VMware-tools-linux-8.6.0-425873.iso

     the new linux tools ISO

     https://www.vmware.com/tryvmware/p/activate.php?p=free-esxi&lp=1&a=DOWNLOAD_FILE&baseurl=https://dow...

There goes the rest of this week and my weekend...

A few days later than expected, but nice to have. Smiley Happy

Now that hardware restrictions and licensing issues have been clearified, time to order me a new DEV server. :smileysilly:

GregecSLO wrote:

Hi!

Is this free hypervisor as well?

Will license key for 4.1 work with it?

Regards,

Greg

A 4.1 key is unlikely to work with the free Hypervisor 5.0. I don't see why you're asking though, since you only need to register & activate the product to get a free key for the 5.0

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Asteroza
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GregecSLO wrote:

Hi!

Is this free hypervisor as well?

Will license key for 4.1 work with it?

Regards,

Greg

Just tried to put a 4.1 key into a fresh 5.0 install and it refused. I haven't tried an upgrade test from 4.1 to 5.0 to see if the 4.1 key is persistent, but I assume not.

When are they going to start releasing 5.0 keys? The download page still only shows my 4.1 ESXi free license entitlement. I suppose I can run around with the 60 day trial mode for a while...

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LucasAlbers wrote:

The vmare engineer at a recent vmware dog and pony show mentioned the 22nd.

Close .. off by 2 days :smileysilly:

Interestingly, the viclient.exe is a larger download then the vmvisor.iso is ... byt a good 60 megabytes.

bloated? or is there just that much more stuff included now?

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einstein-a-go-g
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ESXi 5.0 and vSphere 5.0 keys are different.

New Keys will be issued at the end of the week!

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GregecSLO
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Yup only ESXi 4.1 keys are issued, thats why I asked Smiley Happy

Well I will download and install 5.0 next week register and enter license...

BTW is there still 8GB vRAM limit present or they raised that?

Regards,

Greg

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einstein-a-go-g
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Total 32G vRAM for Free.

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GregecSLO
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As I tought...

Thanks guys! Now lets upgrade Smiley Happy (test machines lol )

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GVD
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einstein-a-go-go wrote:

ESXi 5.0 and vSphere 5.0 keys are different.

New Keys will be issued at the end of the week!

The correct term is Hypervisor 5.0 for the free version, not ESXi 5.0. Smiley Wink

(blame vmware for thatone)

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stinklyonion
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what is the difference between Hypervisor 5.0 and ESXi 5.0 anyway?http://imagicon.info/cat/5-59/1.gif

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