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    <title>topic Re: Best CPU for LAB environment in VMware Workstation Pro Discussions</title>
    <link>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Workstation-Pro/Best-CPU-for-LAB-environment/m-p/2973870#M181750</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Here's some of my thoughts.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Focus on the amount of memory and type of disk.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ideally you'd want to keep all of the VM's virtual memory in the systems memory - you don't want the VMs to be paging in and out. Add up the amount of memory that you're going to give to the VMs and add a few more GB for the host operating system.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also you want a fast disk to store those VMs. SSDs are the best for performance. Preferably NVMe or Thunderbolt 3. USB-3.2 could be used in a pinch. No USB 3.1 or 2, and HDD disks are to be avoided if possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You also provide no information on how many VMs you are going to run and what the workload is anticipated to be.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The real issue I see with the 12th and 13th gen Intel CPUs is the breakdown between performance cores and efficiency cores. The i9-13900K has more cores than the Ryzen, but those are broken down between 8 performance cores and 16 efficiency cores. Your VM performance may not be great if the operating system decides to run your processes on the efficiency cores depending on workload.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The Ryzen has 16 cores - it does not look like they are performance/efficiency.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd choose the Ryzen for virtual machines personally.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, depending on the number of VMs you are going to run, you may be much better off running them under ESXi rather than Workstation.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2023 19:20:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Technogeezer</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-06-20T19:20:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Best CPU for LAB environment</title>
      <link>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Workstation-Pro/Best-CPU-for-LAB-environment/m-p/2973828#M181745</link>
      <description>&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Hi&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;I wonder which CPU is better for Virtualization! (Vmware)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;for example&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Intel Core i9-13900K or AMD&amp;nbsp;Ryzen 9 7950X&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;How would these processor work with&amp;nbsp;Virtualization of many VMs (Many windows VMs and other Linux VMs at the same time)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Is it a good choice for this purpose? I mean a&amp;nbsp;Virtualization LAB PC that will run many VMs at the same time.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;Gaming is not my thing, what i am looking for is a CPU that can run many VMs at the same time.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class=""&gt;&lt;SPAN class=""&gt;What about XEON processors that&amp;nbsp;lies at the same price level?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:13:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hh3232</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-20T14:13:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Best CPU for LAB environment</title>
      <link>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Workstation-Pro/Best-CPU-for-LAB-environment/m-p/2973870#M181750</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Here's some of my thoughts.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Focus on the amount of memory and type of disk.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ideally you'd want to keep all of the VM's virtual memory in the systems memory - you don't want the VMs to be paging in and out. Add up the amount of memory that you're going to give to the VMs and add a few more GB for the host operating system.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also you want a fast disk to store those VMs. SSDs are the best for performance. Preferably NVMe or Thunderbolt 3. USB-3.2 could be used in a pinch. No USB 3.1 or 2, and HDD disks are to be avoided if possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You also provide no information on how many VMs you are going to run and what the workload is anticipated to be.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The real issue I see with the 12th and 13th gen Intel CPUs is the breakdown between performance cores and efficiency cores. The i9-13900K has more cores than the Ryzen, but those are broken down between 8 performance cores and 16 efficiency cores. Your VM performance may not be great if the operating system decides to run your processes on the efficiency cores depending on workload.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The Ryzen has 16 cores - it does not look like they are performance/efficiency.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'd choose the Ryzen for virtual machines personally.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, depending on the number of VMs you are going to run, you may be much better off running them under ESXi rather than Workstation.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2023 19:20:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Workstation-Pro/Best-CPU-for-LAB-environment/m-p/2973870#M181750</guid>
      <dc:creator>Technogeezer</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-20T19:20:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Best CPU for LAB environment</title>
      <link>https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Workstation-Pro/Best-CPU-for-LAB-environment/m-p/2974874#M181823</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;It is EVE-NG what i want to run. On it there will be many other machines:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;4 windows 11 machines&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Cisco ISE&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Checkpoint firewall&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and other routers and switches.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What about an old server say 2016 with 2 XEON CPUs would that be better choice ?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:59:27 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>hh3232</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-06-28T09:59:27Z</dc:date>
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