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Create an VM MacOs Ventura on a MAC mini M1 wit VMWare fusion 13 pro

Timon-VTS — Wed, 28 Jun 2023 08:05:34 GMT

Hello,

I downloaded VMWare fusion 13 Pro und activated the 30 day free trial.
I wanted to check how easy it is to visualize an MacOs X Ventura Vm on an MAC mini M1 with VMWare fusion 13 pro.

But here is my Problem. I only have the possibility to create an custom Vm or import a Vm from remote server. In Tutorials I can see there 3 more options.

When I want to create an custom VM i won't be able to create an MacOS System, only Windows 11 arm, Linux and "other 64-Bit Arm". It is related to the trial Version?

I hope you can help me

Re: Create an VM MacOs Ventura on a MAC mini M1 wit VMWare fusion 13 pro

scott28tt — Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:27:57 GMT

See Q10 and Q11: https://communities.vmware.com/t5/VMware-Fusion-Documents/Running-Fusion-on-an-Intel-Mac-and-upgrading-to-an-M1-M2-Mac/ta-p/2888565

Re: Create an VM MacOs Ventura on a MAC mini M1 wit VMWare fusion 13 pro

Timon-VTS — Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:49:38 GMT

Thanks for your answer.

then it is still true that there is no solution to this from VMWare and you have to resort to other software?

Re: Create an VM MacOs Ventura on a MAC mini M1 wit VMWare fusion 13 pro

Technogeezer — Wed, 28 Jun 2023 13:29:24 GMT

@Timon-VTS wrote:
Thanks for your answer.

then it is still true that there is no solution to this from VMWare and you have to resort to other software?

Yes it’s still true.

While it may seem that not having macOS virtualization in Fusion is a bad thing (because Parallels has it “built in”), the situation may not be as dire as one would initially think. All of the solutions that virtualize macOS are using Apple’s high level Virtualization Framework. They all have the same features (and more importantly) restrictions. And none of them will run macOS versions older than Monterey

In he case of Parallels, what they provide is a just a front end to Apple’s capabilities for virtualizing macOS. The macOS features are not the same as what they provide for Windows and Linux. No snapshots. No resizing of virtual disks There are other things it does differently for macOS. So why pay a lot of money for a product when you can get the same macOS virtualization functionality for free from Virtual Buddy or UTM?

Re: Create an VM MacOs Ventura on a MAC mini M1 wit VMWare fusion 13 pro

ColoradoMarmot — Wed, 28 Jun 2023 16:11:11 GMT

FWIW, Sonoma doesn't seem to have improved the situation very much.

Re: Create an VM MacOs Ventura on a MAC mini M1 wit VMWare fusion 13 pro

Technogeezer — Wed, 28 Jun 2023 17:34:50 GMT

Sonoma adds the ability to suspend a virtual machine and it does appear to have some enhancement in screen sizing. But it still doesn't allow:

virtual machine snapshots
resizing a virtual disk after it's created
USB device connectivity
Signing in with your Apple ID to the virtual machine.
Running of more than 2 macOS VMs.

It's also been reported by others that its virtual disk I/O is smoewhat slow - slower than you'd expect even when running on a SSD.

Re: Create an VM MacOs Ventura on a MAC mini M1 wit VMWare fusion 13 pro

ColoradoMarmot — Wed, 28 Jun 2023 20:28:06 GMT

Yeah, I'd still put it squarely in the experimental/enthusiast/exploratory phase. Definitely not ready for prime time.