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      • 75. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
        jasonboche Champion
        vExpert
        FrancWest wrote:

         

        Hi,

         

         

        why revert back the host also ? I installed the host updates using update manager this week (not knowing that it was update 1) and it keeped working fine with the old VI server and client.

         

         

        Franc.

         

         

         

        Historically, the upgrade steps for VirtualCenter and ESX Server go in order as follows:

         

        1.  VirtualCenter upgrade (implies license server, VIC, and database back end upgrades)

        2.  ESX host upgrades

        3.  VMFS LUN upgrade(s)

        4.  VM Virtual Hardware upgrades

        5.  VM VMware Tools upgrades

         

        My previous recommendation of rolling back the ESX hosts was based upon the upgrade path above

         

        Currently, http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vi3_35/esx_3/r35/vi3_35_25_compat_matrix.pdf makes no reference or distinguishment between VC2.5 and VC2.5U1 nor does it distinguish between ESX3.5 and ESX3.5U1.  That said, it must be assumed that VC2.5 can manage ESX3.5U1 hosts so I will take back what I said previously and I will now say that based on the documentation, managing ESX3.5U1 hosts with VC2.5 looks to be supported.  In other words, don't bother rebuilding your hosts with ESX3.5

         

        Do let us know if you see any issues using VC2.5 to manage ESX3.5U1 hosts.

         

        Thanks,

        Jas

         

         






        [i]Jason Boche[/i]

        [VMware Communities User Moderator|http://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-2444][/i]

        • 76. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
          jasonboche Champion
          vExpert
          xcomiii wrote:

          Hi, yes I overlooked it in my frustration. Thank you for the solution.

           

          Maybe Jason can make this thread sticky or make this information better viewable to other that are upgrading?

           

          I don't believe I have that as an available tool as a moderator.  The best I could do is to create an "annoucement" which references the URL to this post.  Announcements always stay at the top of the forum like a sticky.

           

          The other option is people continue to reply to this thread sharing their upgrade experiences and with that, the thread will keep resurfacing at the top on its own.

           

          Jas

           






          [i]Jason Boche[/i]

          [VMware Communities User Moderator|http://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-2444][/i]

          • 77. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
            jpoling Expert

             

            Just trying to bring some clarity to this situation for myself:

             

             

            I installed VC from the zip file that was posted the day Update 1 was released.  I upgraded from VC 2.0.x and now I am seeing very few problems.  There are a couple oddities but nothing unusual.  So, do I need to roll back? Do a re-install?

             

             

            I would next like to upgrade my hosts from 3.0.1/3.0.2.  Do I need to wait until all this is clarified?

             

             

            Thanks,

             

             

            Jeff

             

             

            • 78. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
              jasonboche Champion
              vExpert
              jpoling wrote:

               

              Just trying to bring some clarity to this situation for myself:

               

               

              I installed VC from the zip file that was posted the day Update 1 was released.  I upgraded from VC 2.0.x and now I am seeing very few problems.  There are a couple oddities but nothing unusual.  So, do I need to roll back? Do a re-install?

               

               

              I would next like to upgrade my hosts from 3.0.1/3.0.2.  Do I need to wait until all this is clarified?

               

               

              Thanks,

               

               

              Jeff

               

              Jeff,

               

              Do us a favor and MD5SUM the VirtualCenter .ZIP file you downloaded and post the results here.

               

              John Troyer emailed me late tonight.  He is working with a few internal VMware employees to get to the bottom of the .ZIP file differences.

               

              Here's what I've done since I last wrote:

              Late this evening I re-downloaded the .ZIP file a few more times using different different PCs, different operating systems, saving to different disks, and using different web browsers (IE7 versus FireFox).  One of the PCs I used to download the .ZIP file was the VMware Browser Appliance VM.  I also used 3 different MD5SUM tools to validate the downloads.  Each time I come up with an MD5SUM value of 6201bd703a932750ca2b4b9fe68996d8.  This evening when VMware employees download the .ZIP file, they come up with an MD5SUM value of 9146aa4743c0a56e37921f62fb898a64 which is the value posted on the VMware downloads website.

               

              Each time I downloaded tonight, I noticed my download comes from download2.vmware.com.  The issue may have something to do with clustered web servers not having the same version of the .ZIP file on each cluster node.  That's pure speculation on my part.

               

              I expect John or someone from VMware will have more information for us early this week.  I would hang tight until we have official clarification from VMware.  Based on the scenario, the appropriate gameplan can be developed.  Depending on what .ZIP file you got, you may not have to do anything.  Let's wait and see.

               

              Jas

               






              [i]Jason Boche[/i]

              [VMware Communities User Moderator|http://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-2444][/i]

              • 79. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
                java_cat33 Master

                Thanks for the update Jason - appreciate it.

                • 80. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
                  Champion

                  Hi Jason,

                   

                  I get 6201bd703a932750ca2b4b9fe68996d8 for the download VMware-VIMSetup-2.5.0-84782.zip too. Tried it 3 times, same result each time. My download is also coming from download2.vmware.com.

                   

                  Cheers,

                   

                  Alex

                  • 81. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
                    jasonboche Champion
                    vExpert
                    mittell wrote:

                    Hi Jason,

                     

                    I get 6201bd703a932750ca2b4b9fe68996d8 for the download VMware-VIMSetup-2.5.0-84782.zip too. Tried it 3 times, same result each time. My download is also coming from download2.vmware.com.

                     

                    Cheers,

                     

                    Alex

                     

                    Thank you Alex.  That is very helpful!  You are getting the same incorrect MD5SUM value that I have been getting for the VirtualCenter .ZIP file.

                     

                    Jas

                     

                     






                    [i]Jason Boche[/i]

                    [VMware Communities User Moderator|http://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-2444][/i]

                    • 82. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
                      NathalieMarshall Enthusiast

                      I upgraded one of our test ESX hosts using update manager and although it is all up and everything I can't migrate any hosts to it, or enable HA on it... I take it I need to rebuild to 3.5? I have no idea that this was a U1 install, just saw that there were updates waiting and foolishly trusted them!

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                      If I rebuild the host, update manager will pick up these updates again. How will we know when we can install them safely??

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                       

                      Nathalie

                      • 83. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
                        sunchaser Novice

                         

                        Hi everybody,

                         

                         

                        have you checked the Virtual Center ISO image, too? maybe it contains the correct build...

                         

                         

                        • 84. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
                          wally Hot Shot

                          nope, the one I downloaded contains the same 84767 version, although the md5sum was ok.

                          • 85. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
                            RParker Guru

                             

                            > Can someone from VMware please advise when the correct download is available for Update 1 (for ESX 3.5 and VC) - and also when the bugs have been fixed?

                             

                             

                             

                             

                             

                            The builds ARE correct, they were correct the whole time actually, the descrepancy was the website showed the installation build not the actual build of the product.  84767 is the build for VC and 82663 is the correct build foe ESX update 1.

                             

                             

                             

                             

                             

                            As far as bugs is concerned, I updated almost immediately for our entire enterprise, and I don't see any bugs.  In fact I see many improvements.  Like the VC refresh showing many VM's, it would hang while it was displaying the VM list, now it shows fine.

                             

                             

                            This is the best build to date, and now they have officially supported jumbo frames and improved the network perofrmance, we are good.

                             

                             

                             

                             

                             

                            what kind of "bugs" do you see?

                             

                             

                            • 86. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
                              RParker Guru

                               

                              > nope, the one I downloaded contains the same 84767 version, although the md5sum was ok.

                               

                               

                               

                               

                               

                              84767 IS the correct version, 84782 is the installer used to INSTALL the product.

                               

                               

                              • 87. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
                                dmadden Enthusiast

                                 

                                RParker is correct.  The build numbers are right.  The VC build number displayed on the download page is for the unified installer and not VirtualCenter. 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                 

                                The md5sum for the zip file is not correct.

                                 

                                 

                                • 88. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
                                  NathalieMarshall Enthusiast

                                  I see the bugs I explained about above - that I can't migrate any VM's to the one machine I upgraded. Hence I'm not happy applying the upgrades to any other machines until I  know the problem is fixed. I'm also worried that when I rebuild the ESX server back to 3.5 update manager is going to pick up all the updates again and I don't want to install them but will want to install others. Hence I am keen that this is fixed soon!

                                  • 89. Re: VI 3.5 Update 1 upgrade experiences
                                    jasonboche Champion
                                    vExpert
                                    dmadden wrote:

                                    The md5sum for the zip file is not correct.

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                    Based on my email discussions with VMware, last night a VMware employee downloaded the .ZIP file and the MD5SUM value matched what is published on the website.

                                     

                                    Thus far it has been confirmed that when Alex (Mittell) or myself downloads the .ZIP file, the MD5SUM value does not match what is published on the website.

                                     

                                    My biggest concern is that 2 different .ZIP files are being downloaded from the VMware website evidenced by the 2 different MD5SUM values we are seeing. It's a version control issue. How many people have downloaded the .ZIP file since the release on 4/10/08 and which version of the .ZIP file did each person get? Which version is the correct version?

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                    So far it has not been proven that there is any correlation between the different .ZIP files/MD5SUM values and the other issues being reported such as VIC client crashing, complaining about a vpx log file being in use, inability to vmotion, inability to view remote console, inability to deploy a template with a customization, inability to enable the Update Manager plugin, etc. For now I would treat those as separate issues.

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                     

                                    Jason Boche

                                    VMware Communities User Moderator

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