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      • 15. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
        Champion

        I see that you have marked this as answered.

         

        It is customary to award points by marking answers as helpful and/or correct.

         

        It is a simple as pressing a little button on the responses you found helpful and correct.

        • 16. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
          williambishop Master

          Done and done. I marked several as helpful and one as correct, although I think I didn't get them in the right order. I marked correct the guy who said the phrase that hit home, I marked helpful the first guy who said "trial". Both were correct.

          • 18. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
            williambishop Master

            If it's any consolation it's only because I was a moron and did not assume that vmware would trial esx for the entire demo, from 2 esx servers to the virtual center.

             

            Now if I can just not screw up.

             

            Anyone by chance know how to schedule something at the xp command line that will perform an action at a timed interval? at wants to use a clock, and I can't very well have 2000 computers booting at the same time.

            • 19. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
              Champion

              >If it's any consolation it's only because I was a moron and did not assume that vmware would trial esx for the >entire demo, from 2 esx servers to the virtual center.

               

              Nope!

               

              >Anyone by chance know how to schedule something at the xp command line that will perform an action at a timed >interval? at wants to use a clock, and I can't very >well have 2000 computers booting at the same time.

               

               

              New topic start a new thread!

              • 20. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
                williambishop Master

                Nah, I'll just use ahk, I had hoped there was someone off the top of their head.

                 

                 

                Didn't wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning did we?

                • 21. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
                  Champion

                  Nah, I'll just use ahk, I had hoped there was someone

                  off the top of their head.

                   

                   

                  Didn't wake up on the wrong side of the bed this

                  morning did we?

                   

                  Not at all, as a User Moderator of the forums it is part of my job to assure we do not have threads piggyback off each other.

                   

                  That way once the question has been answered others can use the search engine and benefit from the thread.  If a new question is asked in the same thread after 1 question has been answered it will be hidden from the rest of the community.

                  • 22. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
                    dpomeroy Virtuoso

                    The demo is perfect; it's licensed for two ESX

                    servers, with vmotion. It's like they knew my need!

                    Thanks guys. Now if I can just become an expert in 30

                    days.

                     

                    FYI, you need a SAN for vMotion and VirtualCenter, but if you have that it’s probably the coolest feature to demo. Of course most business people don’t care about cool. There should be a strong business case for any new IT project, and that’s were VMware excels. The cost savings, increased utilization of resources, increased productivity of staff, and did I say cost savings are easy to calculate. There is a very good ROI to implementing virtual infrastructure; this is what should be focused on when selling anything back to the business people that ultimately pay for all this cool IT stuff.

                     

                    As far as becoming an expert in 30 day, I do not doubt your abilities but this is far more complex than it seams on the surface. I know there are companies out there not at all happy with their VI implementation because of our tendency in IT to "figure it out as we go". The full VI with ESX, VC, vMotion, etc requires a lot of up front planning and understanding of the technology to be successful. If you can I highly recommend the training classes VMware has, if you have any training budget I would take a look at the class, it will get you up to speed faster than anything else you can do in four days. If you don’t have training $$$ then I would try to include the costs into the project. Rolling out virtual infrastructure is not cheap and a few thousand more for training to ensure everything is done right is well worth the money in the long run.

                     

                    Just my $.02,

                    Good luck on your project and welcome.

                    • 23. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
                      williambishop Master

                      I've included class money in the vmdemo budget, unfortunately the demo occurs about 6 months before the budget.

                       

                      If you think that's bad, they asked for us to build a means of deploying packages, updates, and msi's  to desktops without user intervention(a la active directory). It needed to be low cost, easy to maintain, and available quickly.

                       

                      The demo is tomorrow, the day they asked--wait for it.....FRIDAY AFTERNOON.

                       

                      It's ready, finished it this morning(slept 2 hours since Friday), but it was a stressful project. I've already added the agent to the universal image. I'll demo it with 4 application packages that run on login(HKLM, run)

                       

                      On the positive side, I have every piece of something like Altiris but it's free. We do system build, application packaging, system imaging, and software deployment remote all for no cost.

                       

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                      • 24. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
                        petedr Virtuoso

                        Vmware is one of the best products to come along in a long time., should be an easy sell. We have been using Workstation, GSX and ESX for years in our data center.

                         

                        Benefits are significant :

                         

                        Server consolation  (huge potential hardware, etc savings here)

                        complete server backups (easy DRs and data center restoration)

                        server portablity ( we had a sister data center running a Vm and they just ftped to us and we had it up and running in no time in our data center)

                        testing changes using undoable or non persistant mode (been great for us for testing Oracle patches)

                        the list goes on

                        • 25. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
                          williambishop Master

                          What I need is a warm body to pick their brain and help me set up the demo--but not a rep, or at least not in an official capacity anyway.

                           

                          Do we have anyone in the north alabama area?

                          • 27. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
                            williambishop Master

                            Not much luck, the closest that looks available is about 90 miles away. I did get the 8 way in, I've got the demo of VMware ESX, I'll load it with 12-16 gigs of memory and play with it.

                            • 28. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
                              sgunelius Expert

                              William,

                               

                              Good luck with the demo.  The DL760 you'll be using for the demo was the first platform we used at Pfizer's Consumer Healthcare division to support virtualization (ESX Server 1.0).  We didn't even have VirtualCenter, VMotion or vSMP back then, but it really did the job and the success we had motivated the organization to embrace virtualization.

                               

                              Scott

                              • 29. Re: I've got the green light, help me sell it!
                                williambishop Master

                                Update, I've been running the system since a couple days after the post on vmware, and it's rock solid. It's actually faster than the old dual boxes, because the nics are much better on this new desktop.

                                 

                                Downside to the monolithic model I took up is that I'm in the 30 gig range for this little server, but I never have to rebuild due to hardware upgrades again....so it's worth it. I'm thinking about spinning off a couple of the functions to their own server, but I'm not sure it really accomplishes anything. I'll have to test and see.

                                 

                                Getting close to the new fiscal year, I'm already getting some interest on it.

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