I will now post my replies in the other forum:
Just to clarify, when I mentioned windows firewall I meant windows firewall present in the VMs I build which I can't ping after I install them. The other thing I want to add is that the VM in the virtualbox and the other VM in Vmware will both ping the default gateway or my router. The router will also ping them. However, the machines themselves won't ping each other which is mind puzzling for me. I was once able to fix this by going to Vmware virtual network editor and selecting the actual physical network adapter for the bridge mode or something similar.
Anyone with similar problems?
Anybody guys? Any virtualization gurus here?
- Machine A pings machine C and the opposite is also true
- Machine B pings machine C and the opposite is also true
- Machine A does not ping machine B and the opposite is also true
What gives? This is driving me crazy. It just doesn't make sense at all. The only abnormal thing in this setup is that machine A and machine B are in different hypervisor software, which shouldn't affect anything. Let's say machine C is the host machine.
If you have to ask why I have to use Vmware and Virtualbox: It is because one exploitable machine that I need to use only runs on virtualbox so I had to install and use it, although I normally use Vmware workstation. I'm a vmware guy.
Well, in my case it is clear that it is something else in addition to the windows firewall because it even happens with linux machines. I haven't solved it yet. I think I'll just have to live with only one hypervisor running at a time and install all virtual machines that I want installed on it. I'll keep seeking a solution though.
I found this but I'm not sure if is related:
"It is possible that the router blocks this external communication. "
It says the router may be blocking the link. I have the Netgear Nighthawk R7000 router. I'll see if there is an option I can play with.
Just an update, I downloaded the remote desktop software TightVNC just to see if it can communicate between a virtualbox VM and a vmware VM. As I suspected, it didn't. It worked perfectly between VMs in the same hypervisor software OR between a VM and the host machine but not between a VM in virtualbox and another in vmware workstation. I'll see if I can get any help in vmware forums.
Please provide details on the operating systems of the host and the guests, together with any additional antivirus/firewalls installed, to help us make better sense of the situation.
The host machine is windows 10 with Vmware workstation 15.5 and VirtualBox latest version. The guests are several machines. I tried it with windows 7 and windows 10 and several linux flavors. It always works except for when a machine in Vmware tries to ping a machine in VirtualBox or vice versa. I isolated firewall issues.
Here is an extra piece of information that I found about today. I ran Vmware in another physical machine of mine and the guest inside it (Fedora) was able to ping the VM in virtuabox in my main physical machine. The virtualbox VM was also able to ping Fedora in my 2nd physical machine. What gives? Maybe you are not supposed to run two hypervisor software at simultaneously in one machine?
I did a quick search for 'virtualbox vmware coexistence' (you should too). Some people say that they can coexist but better not run simultaneously e.g. here Can I have both VMWare Player and Virtual Box in same PC???
But I remember one time it just worked. Maybe it is like you said, you shouldn't expect things to behave normally if the two hypervisors are running simultaneously in the same machine, even if they work some times. I'll go research this. Thanks.
This is supposed to work when the network configuration is reasonable.
It would help to look into details.
Provide details like
VM A using IP xy connected to vmnetX trying to ping VM B using IP xy connected to vmnet Y fails ...
Well, vmnetx and vmnety are the virtual adapters in vmware (vmnet1 & vmnet8 in my case). They are used for NAT or host-only connectivity. That's my understanding. Like I said i'm using bridged mode, which means I'm supposedly using vmnet0 as per my Vmware settings. There are also virtual network adapters in VirtualBox used for host only connectivity.
The IP's are just Consecutive. Say for example that Vmware and VirtualBox are both turned off, and the last IP used by my physical devices is 192.168.1.33. Here is what will happen exactly:
If I fire up a VM in Vmware it will take 192.168.1.34 as an IP and will be connected to the network as if a physical machine entered the network (Definition of bridged mode). If I fire up another VM in Vmware it will take 192.168.1.35 as an IP and will be pingable from everywhere and it will also ping all other machines. Now if I shutdown this 2nd VM in Vmware (the 192.168.1.35 will be released of course) and start VirtualBox and fire a VM inside it, this VM in VirtualBox will take 192.168.1.35 as an IP. This VM in VirtualBox will also be pingable from everywhere and it will ping all other machines EXCEPT for the 192.168.1.34 since it is residing in Vmware. Do you see it now?
I'm sorry but this is the best I could do to explain it.
Please let me know if you have more questions.
This is an old post but it looks like the guy is having the exact same issue as mine.
I think It is just not doable. It is not advisable to run both simultaneously in the same machine like the moderator in the above thread said. I will live with that.
@continuum said it should work and that he'll look into it (the one that said 'it's not advisable' is not a moderator). Just have some patience :-)
Sure. That's okay. I'm waiting
I had VMware Workstation and VirtualBox VMs on a Linux host and had no such problems......
Have you tried wether you can connect from VMware VM to VBox VMs using other options than ping ?
Do you see the other VM in the arp-cache ? - or can you try a network port-scanner ?
Yes I tried other methods. I tried to access each VM remotely from the other by using TightVNC and the native windows remote desktop app. It DIDN'T work, although it works when I do it from the host machine. I used nmap in one VM to scan the other VM and it says the machine is down.
Oh I am a moderator , but being a moderator does not mean knowing better than Ulli.
BTW, that thread was two years old, things might have changed since then.
Still don't think it is a good idea to run both VMware Workstation as well as VirtualBox on the same host at the same time.
VMware most likely does not test that scenario much. But I do know that they will try to fix issues if there are some that are fixable.
Running VMware Workstation and Hyper-V simultaneously however... stay tuned.. (somewhere this week even).
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