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      • 15. Re: VMWare workstation version 14.1.7 host support for Windows 10 1903
        Latuda Lurker

        After having read all of what has been written here about "VMware 14 host support" and "end of life" I decided to abandon my VMware Workstation 14 (which I bought in October '17 and together with my new Windows 10-64 Professional Host-Computer) . I'm certainly not going to hold back my Windows 10 (which is now 1903) from upgrading and installing security patches . And I will not upgrade my VMware Workstation to a version 15 which will be end-of-life within less than 8 months again and which then again might not be supported by coming Windows 10-patches. To me the combination of Windows 10 and VMware seems to be some sort of so called 'Ransomware' . I successfully changed @to Oracle VM Virtual Box Version 6 which completely meets my requirements .

        • 16. Re: VMWare workstation version 14.1.7 host support for Windows 10 1903
          amatellini Lurker

          I had the same problem. I renamed C:\Program Files (x86)\VMware\VMware Workstation\vmware.exe to vmwarea.exe  and Workstation started again.


          Regards,

           

          Andrea

          • 17. Re: VMWare workstation version 14.1.7 host support for Windows 10 1903
            jerdcox Novice

            Workstation Player 14.1.7 had been working fine for us on 1903 until the recent KB4524147 update. And from what I can determine online, there are no technical problems with running the software that the update introduced, just a windows blocklist for old software.

             

            There is a workaround to bypass that blocklist, option 3 here:

            https://www.tenforums.com/virtualization/141820-vmware-workstation-pro-cant-run-windows-message.html

             

            But it is ridiculous that both 12 and 14 are blocked arbitrarily at this point - neither are fundamentally broken by the update. I can understand if VMWare doesn't find it worth the investment to continue to support if real problems come up, but letting them lapse into a state where Microsoft just decides not to allow them to run isn't helpful either. It seems like some level of communication would be appropriate to tell Microsoft there is no reason to block these in the absence of a real incompatibility.

             

            As far as how long you should support it - this is a commercial and enterprise product. There should be a minimum of three years of compatibility support from the last date you sell licenses for a product. That is just a baseline for enterprise life cycles in terms of software. That doesn't mean new features, but if you are offering licenses for sale for workstation player 14 in 2018, it should continue to operate on the OS until 2021. Or you should provide free upgrades to the version that will be supported until that time.

             

            I understand that Microsoft's windows upgrade policy is an issue for you, as Windows 10 is not a stable target as older versions were. But it is impossible even for most businesses to avoid the OS updates at some point - Microsoft's setup now is just intended to get everyone on the same set of patches and updates. The maximum delay on feature updates is a year, so even locking that down when 14 went end of general support only gets to early next year.

             

            Our company upgraded from player 12 to 14 in 2018, just 9 months before player 15 came out, and there was no free upgrade path, and no compelling features in 15 to upgrade to. Now less than two years later, we apparently need to spend the same upgrade cost again, for nothing more than not being on a windows blacklist. Given that experience, we are very reluctant to upgrade to 15 today and see the same cycle repeat with 16. If buying 15 today included a guaranteed free upgrade to the next version, it would be a lot more feasible to make that investment. But with a history of major version updates to workstation every year or two, a new version bought today would likely be outdated in less than a year. There needs to be a better solution - we can't just churn software upgrade fees every year or two.

            • 18. Re: VMWare workstation version 14.1.7 host support for Windows 10 1903
              Latuda Lurker

              As I learn from 'amatellini' it is just a case of renaming the exe so that it is not blocked anymore by Windows 10-1903. Thanx to 'jerdcox' I looked up the 'Windows Blocklist' (C:\Windows\sysmain.sdb) within the "Compatibility Administrator (64-bit)"-Tool. I must say that I completely uninstalled VMware Workstation Pro 14.1.7 from my host before upgrading to Windows 10-1903.

              Then I did not find any 'HARDBLOCK'ing entries for 'VMware workstation' that I could DISABLE, but I found and DISABLEd them for 'VMware player'. Now I am asking myself who is making these entries to that database. Microsoft? Why should they? Or is it VMware themselves within their installation procedure for Workstation Pro or within an 'Update'? Or are they working together to just mess around with their customers and to make lots of buckazoids This could be called a 'cartel' (see also 'planned obsolescence'). I've learnt my lesson and abandoned VMware Workstation Pro to save money and to stop 'VMware Inc.' from messing with me.

              • 19. Re: VMWare workstation version 14.1.7 host support for Windows 10 1903
                wvmstr Novice

                Mikero

                 

                First a little detour as illustration.

                 

                I let a $6,000 seat of Autodesk Inventor lapse, because old bugs were mostly not fixed and they expected me to pay annual subscription fees for a new set of bugs.

                Paying for Workstation Pro allows me to keep using Autodesk Inventor on a Win7 guest.

                 

                Earlier this year I had similar misgivings about Workstation Pro license when I noted VMware was pushing me to upgrade to 15, while I had a long list things that weren't working right on 14. Attempting to get help from WMware resulted in absolutely nothing. At that point I noticed the similarities between Autodesk and VMware, decided that in principle I would not upgrade to 15 as I wasn't confident that a new version would fix my problems.

                 

                Now there is a similar dilemma, as I am being forced to upgrade, however I do not know when the next Windows 10 update will kill the new Workstation Pro, right? That makes me wonder if I should go Virtualbox right away.

                 

                Money I spend on software comes out of my own pocket, so I am more sensitive to all these recurring costs. However, as you have noticed my sentiment is also expressed by some of your large clients. Your subscription model is undermined by Microsoft's upgrades.

                 

                From my own experience it is easy to loose clients, and very difficult to get them back. The solution is two-fold. Hold on to existing clients as much as you can by offering an incentive to stay.

                 

                Assuming VMware is a Microsoft Gold Partner, then the second approach needs to be to determine a joint strategy with other gold partners and work on a long term strategy.

                 

                As an illustration to support my case: https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/forums/searchpage/tab/message?advanced=false&allow_punctuation=false&q=windows%2010%20190…

                • 20. Re: VMWare workstation version 14.1.7 host support for Windows 10 1903
                  wila Guru
                  User ModeratorsvExpertCommunity Warriors

                  Hi,

                   

                  Have a look at Michael's explanation on Support Timeline policy here:

                   

                  Re: VMWare Version Support Timeline Policy

                   

                  It hopefully answers some of your questions.

                  If not then do ask.

                   

                  --

                  Wil

                  | Author of Vimalin. The virtual machine Backup app for VMware Desktop Products
                  | Vimalin : Automated backups for VMware Fusion and VMware Workstation Professional
                  | More info at https://www.vimalin.com
                  | Twitter @wilva
                  | VMware Wiki at http://www.vi-toolkit.com
                  • 21. Re: VMWare workstation version 14.1.7 host support for Windows 10 1903
                    Zongmin Enthusiast
                    VMware Employees

                    Hi all,

                     

                    Sorry for this inconvenience. Pls refer to Statement for Workstation 15.0 and earlier being blocked by Microsoft KBs  for background and workarounds for this. We will keep updating that thread for the progress.

                     

                    Thanks,
                    VMware Workstation Team

                    • 22. Re: VMWare workstation version 14.1.7 host support for Windows 10 1903
                      wila Guru
                      vExpertUser ModeratorsCommunity Warriors

                      Hi,

                       

                      As a FYI to everybody in this thread who still might be on Workstation 14.

                       

                      I have not seen this before, but VMware has released an update a couple of days ago even after Workstation 14 is end of life already.

                       

                      It deals specifically with the Windows 10 issue.

                       

                      Download: Download VMware Workstation 14.1.8 Pro

                       

                      Release notes: VMware Workstation 14.1.8 Pro Release Notes

                       

                      hope this helps,

                      --

                      Wil

                      | Author of Vimalin. The virtual machine Backup app for VMware Desktop Products
                      | Vimalin : Automated backups for VMware Fusion and VMware Workstation Professional
                      | More info at https://www.vimalin.com
                      | Twitter @wilva
                      | VMware Wiki at http://www.vi-toolkit.com
                      • 23. Re: VMWare workstation version 14.1.7 host support for Windows 10 1903
                        gbohn Enthusiast

                        For what it's worth, I'm trying this out now. I had 14.1.7 installed on Win 10 1809.

                         

                        I updated to Workstation 14.1.8, then let Windows 10 update to 1903.

                         

                        At least so far (with all of about 5 minutes of testing done), I was able to start a few Windows Guests without apparent issue!

                         

                        Hurray!

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