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freejo66
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Using VM Fusion within Mac OSX Catalina Beta (all builts)

Hi folks, does anyone know about the display-problem using VM Fusion 10.1 within Catalina?

It seems I've updated my mac (to early).

The Virtual Machine (Windows 10) is starting properly,

but from begin the video output can be seen only in the library status window.

The real vm window will be shown, but stays black all the time.

Who knows about?

Is the newer version Fusion 11 solving the problem?

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freejo66
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Fusion 11 works fine in Catalina.

Problem is solved

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vitaprimo
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Will Fusion 10 work on macOS 10.15 though? I installed it accidentally thinking I was using another Mac and now VMs show blank screen, even those on vSphere.

I tried a Fusion 11 trial and it worked as well, yet I have no substantial reason to upgrade to Fusion 11--I only use Fusion to connect to vSphere (ESXi and/or vCenter) and to run the Rufus utility that only runs on Windows.

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PBMarvin
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I have read that Fusion 11.1.0 worked with Catalina Beta. However, I can say that Fusion 11.1.1 does not work. I can see the screen in the Library window but the window of the actual VM is just black. I have not yet figured out a workaround. The mac is a 2019 27" 5k Retina.

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ColoradoMarmot
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No, it doesn't - there's several long threads here with hacks to work around the limitations.  11.5 will support catalina.

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PBMarvin
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Thank you.

Do you know when Fusion 11.5 will be released?

Can you point me to a thread that has a viable workaround?

Apple’s big show is next week so it is conceivable that Catalina will have it’s GA release shortly after.

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ColoradoMarmot
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VMWare doesn't provide release dates.  I would expect that we'd see it soon, worse case shortly after the gold master is released.

I don't run beta software on production boxes, so have only been following the other threads lightly - they're all on the first page of the forum.

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zangiamit91
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I have some graphics lags in Vmware fusion (last version" and Catalina with the previous version, that some menus inthe finder are black, and the windows moving laggy and not smooth, also some GPU problems in some plugins on logic pro x. I tried almost every setting on the machine hardware configuration on the Vmware. Still, nothing help, I also saw some tread about enable the screen recording, but I can't have the option on my virtual machine for that; my primary system is Mojave. I add full disk access for both and still stuck here.

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ColoradoMarmot
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If you're having issues with a catalina guest, that's likely because it doesn't provide 3d acceleration (which a lot of mac apps require).

If it's the host, make sure that it's supported hardware and you're running Fusion 11.5.

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zangiamit91
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thank you, and yes, I'm using the last version of Vmware. there is something to enable the 3D acceleration?

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ColoradoMarmot
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Unfortunately not, it's a limitation of MacOS itself (not Fusion) - there's no API layer to hook into like there is for windows guests.

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zangiamit91
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ok. thank you!

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pmhparis
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there's no API layer to hook into like there is for windows guests

This is incorrect and only shows that you don't know what you're talking about outside your preferred OS - which clearly isn't MacOS.

The Metal graphics API is common between iOS, iPadOS and MacOS. That VMware has not chosen to support metal is a defect in VMWare when comparing Fusion to Parralells Desktop.

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ColoradoMarmot
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Actually I do, and I've had those conversations with VMWare engineers.

Metal is an API for applications ON MacOS to use.  Not an API for the OS to use to access underlying hardware (virtualized or otherwise).

Parallels doesn't provide 3d acceleration in MacOS guests either - no virtualization platform does.

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