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      • 15. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
        Matthoff Lurker

        The release notes make no mention of this issue. It is therefore safe to assume that the problem still exists.

        • 16. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
          MacsRule Hot Shot

          FWIW, I was able to get a Win 8.1 VM reservation for upgrade to Win 10 and the reservation was confirmed. The trick was to not install at least one of a variety of Win updates associated with the upgrade. I then foolishly allowed those installations so now I get the same error message you are regarding the graphics adapter. I'm curious to see if the upgrade download and installation will occur anyway. Also, I believe having a reservation allows the download of the upgrade file to take place over time prior to the release date so that the actual upgrade can be offered to you on the release date. Otherwise, the MS servers will be swamped with everyone trying to get the big file all at once.

           

          At the same time, a preview of Windows 10 has been available since January and I read yesterday that as long as the preview is associated with your Microsoft account, it can be upgraded to a valid installation when the release occurs. Since it works just fine in Fusion, that would seem to be the way to go.

          • 17. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
            Pbryanw Enthusiast

            Any update on this with the Windows 10 launch just under a month away - have VMware heard anything back from Microsoft?

            • 18. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
              jer3000 Lurker

              Bump. How is this not a PR thing yet? Windows is bread and butter for Fusion. I really would like to reserve my copy before the window closes.

              • 19. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
                dariusd Virtuoso
                User ModeratorsVMware Employees

                Here's a random thought ... and I haven't tried it myself yet ...

                 

                If you uninstall VMware Tools, does it then allow you to go through the reservation process?

                 

                I have no idea if it will work, but it seems like it's worth a shot.

                 

                Cheers,

                --

                Darius

                • 20. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
                  dariusd Virtuoso
                  User ModeratorsVMware Employees

                  We have reported the issue to Microsoft.  Regrettably, I don't have any more information to share at this stage.

                   

                  Thanks,

                  --

                  Darius

                  • 21. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
                    David_K Lurker

                    Darius,

                     

                    I tried uninstalling VMware Tools and rebooting on a Macbook Pro with Retina display running OX X 10.10.3.  The display was low resolution which made me hope that the failure to make a reservation, which was based on an incompatible video driver, might be fixed.  However, it unfortunately still fails with error: VMware SVGA 3D Your display won't work.

                     

                    Is there more than uninstalling VMware tools that we have to do to uninstall the VMware video driver?

                     

                    David

                    • 22. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
                      gevola Lurker

                      Hello Darios,

                      a vmware company should have a direct support with Microsoft.

                      So I can't believe that, understand which are the reasons of the problem can require so much time.

                      • 23. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
                        wila Guru
                        User ModeratorsCommunity Warriors

                        Hi,

                         

                        Maybe not what you want to hear, the only reason I'm mentioning it is to make sure there is no confusion.

                         

                        I really would like to reserve my copy before the window closes.

                        Microsoft has said that the window for upgrading for free from Windows 7 .. Windows 8.1 closes 1 year after initial release.

                        See also: Windows 10 FAQ & Tips - Microsoft "Is the upgrade really free" question.

                         

                        So the window is open until July 29, 2016.

                         

                        Reserving a free copy is only making it download in the background.

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                        • 24. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
                          Pbryanw Enthusiast

                          @David_K - Might be worth re-running the compatibility check after uninstalling Tools?

                           

                          To do so, open an elevated command prompt and type

                          schtasks.exe /Run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"

                           

                          Then you have to wait 15 or so minutes for it to run.

                          • 25. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
                            David_K Lurker

                            Pbryanw

                             

                            I realized that the failed compatibility test had been run more than a week ago, but didn't know how to force a recheck until your posting.  Unfortunately, the retest never ran, even though I received a "SUCCESS" message when I scheduled the task.  I figured the issue might be that there has to be a period of inactivity for the compatibility test to run, so I made sure that neither OS X or Windows would sleep and left it alone for an hour.  When that didn't work, I rebooted Windows 8.1, rescheduled the task as you suggested and again left it alone for an hour.  Still it didn't run.

                             

                            Since I need the VMware tools for a higher resolution display and to share files with OS X, I had to reinstall them.  So if the compatibility test does run, it will again see the VMware video driver that prevents upgrading.  From what I read on the Microsoft website, it appears that the compatibility test will be run again even if there's a successful upgrade reservation for Windows 10.  Therefore, while this test is interesting, it won't likely allow the upgrade.

                             

                            We are all counting on VMware resolving this with Microsoft.

                             

                            David

                            • 26. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
                              Pbryanw Enthusiast

                              Hi, I've also uninstalled VMware Tools, and ran the compatibility appraiser using the command I posted earlier. Like you, I received a success message even though it didn't update the result in the Windows 10 reservation app (and I also left it to run like you did).

                               

                              Unfortunately, this is the only way I found to update the result of the compatibility check, other than to let it run automatically.

                               

                              So, to summarise, I'm in the same boat as you and have confirmed your results. I also need Windows 8.1 to run at my native desktop resolution, so will be reinstalling VMware tools, and hope too that VMware can resolve this problem with Microsoft.

                               

                              Of course, as wila pointed out, Windows 10 will be available to download even without a reservation, but it would be nice if we were able to take advantage of this offer.

                              • 27. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
                                jer3000 Lurker

                                I agree with that last sentiment by David. I feel it is VMWare's responsibility to work with Microsoft to ensure that VMWare's video driver is compatible with Windows 10. That is a textbook reason why we pay VMWare for virtualization.

                                • 28. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
                                  dariusd Virtuoso
                                  User ModeratorsVMware Employees

                                  While I agree with your sentiment, jer3000, the practical situation is a little bit different...  Our video driver is compatible with Windows 10 (it meets the Windows 10 System Requirements, and it successfully installs and operates on the latest previews of Windows 10), and we are not aware of any reason that this error message is appearing.  We have opened a line of communication with Microsoft, but have not yet received any explanation of why this problem is occurring or what we can do to correct it.

                                   

                                  I should also mention that Parallels Desktop has the exact same issue, and VirtualBox does too, and -- for all of these hypervisor vendors -- there seems to be a handful of users who report success in reserving Windows 10, while the majority are told that their video driver is incompatible.  I'm not aware of any reports of Hyper-V being affected by this issue... 

                                   

                                  It's worth re-stating the point made several times elsewhere in this thread: Even if you cannot reserve a copy of Windows 10, it should still be possible to download a standalone installer (i.e. an .iso file) for Windows 10 once it is released.

                                   

                                  Thanks for your patience, everyone!  I'll let you know when we have more news to share.

                                   

                                  Cheers,

                                  --

                                  Darius

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                                  • 29. Re: Will I be able to reserve a copy of Windows 10 using my Windows 8.1 VM?
                                    MikhailDV Novice

                                    Not sure if this will ultimately work out, but I signed up for the Windows 10 Technical preview and then upgraded my Windows Pro 8.1 VM to Windows 10 preview.  Even though I couldn't make my reservation in 8.1 (because of the SVGA issue), Windows 10 preview installed via Windows update with no issue, whatsoever.  I did a little Google researching and it seems like MS will allow W10 preview users to upgrade to non-preview when W10 releases.  So, I'm gambling that this is actually true and won't be blocked by the SVGA compatibility check (as preview W10 is already running).

                                     

                                    Note, however, that I'm running ESXi 5.5, not Fusion.

                                     

                                    Mik

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