Where is the installation?
I downloaded the Vmware Vcenter VIM setup 6.0 DVD and do not see the install on the disk?
I do see the VSphere desktop client install but no 'web client'.
Do I need to upgrade VCenter server to 6.0 and download the web client from it?
is VCenter server 6.0 backward compatible? Can I manage an ESXi 5.1 host with VCenter server 6?
Or should I upgrade ESXi to 6.0 before the VCenter server?
Thanks
yes, the vCenter is backward compatible. vcenter 6.0 supports even esxi 5.0
you can check it here: http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/sim/interop_matrix.php
the webclient is installed with the vcenter. its no more a single installation.
first you have to update the vcenter. then you can update the esxi server.
The web-client is installed with vCenter (either Windows or VCSA)
With a standalone host you will require the C# client (VMware vSphere Client) from the ESXi downloads page.
BTW: Don't use the web-client, even in vSphere 6, it is a mess!
yes, the vCenter is backward compatible. vcenter 6.0 supports even esxi 5.0
you can check it here: http://www.vmware.com/resources/compatibility/sim/interop_matrix.php
the webclient is installed with the vcenter. its no more a single installation.
first you have to update the vcenter. then you can update the esxi server.
Big help...thanks for the info.
I was able to use the bootable VMware VMvisor 6.0 CD to upgrade ESXi 5.1 to 6.0 for my lab server, without using the upgrade manager.
But I don't have VCenter running in the lab to try that route.
what do you want now?
you can install the native client on a windows computer and connect direct with the root user
How you manage your ESXi 6.0 ? (even in LAB )
Connecting direct is fine if you don't have to modify any newer VMs. I discovered yesterday that they can only be edited in the web client. If there's no longer a standalone, then it seems I need to build a Win Server 2008R2 or newer for hosting vSphere Server just to be able to work with newer VMs???
This seem crazy to me. I have to be missing something here.
There is a growing list of things that only work in the Web Client. The 6.0 specific functionality ONLY works in the Web Client. So, might as well start getting used to it. In 6.0 a lot of focus was placed on speed and responsiveness. It's not that bad.
dcyril;
You can also install and use the VCSA (vCenter Server Appliance) which will let you set it up without needing a Windows server to host the vCenter. Then you just connect to VCSA from the web client using a web browser. Here is a good overview on 6.0 VCSA; http://www.vmwarearena.com/2015/02/vsphere-6-0-whats-new-in-vcenter-server-appliancevcsa-6-0.html
JLackman wrote:
There is a growing list of things that only work in the Web Client. The 6.0 specific functionality ONLY works in the Web Client. So, might as well start getting used to it. In 6.0 a lot of focus was placed on speed and responsiveness. It's not that bad.
The point is - NO! (and it is still that bad)
At this point, management will not qualify the use of Flash for infrastructure management like vSphere.
If the C# Client were not still available, we would eventually be forced to switch to a platform that didn't leverage Flash. I gotta wonder if the web-client isn't at least partly responsible for PayPal completing the process of dumping of vCenter!
Either give us one client (web-client) that works properly without Flash or dump the web-client until it is ready for prime-time!
If there is some corporate restriction on Flash, I can see that would be a problem. I use the web client every single day. I have the C# client open on most days also. I agree the C# client is faster in general, and seems easier in some cases. I'm trying to use Web Client as much as possible since that's the direction the vendor is going. Today, I have not had a single frustration with the Web Client. Last week, I did have a few issues with datastore management, to the frustration level comparable to maybe when a large insect blows up on my windshield while driving home. Over the last few weeks, heavy use of the Web Client on a couple of new projects has only caused me personally some very minor frustration, far less than many other daily life experiences. I am using 6.0, which does seem to be faster.
I'll have to look into the VCSA. Currently I have 1 host machine and I'm building my second. For 2 ESXi hosts, it would seem extravagant for a business that incomes $10K/year to have to buy an extra server just to manage a few VMs with the web client. I've looked for several days and this is the first mention I've seen that didn't require vCenter Server hosted on an additional server (WIN 2008R2 or later) just to get access to the Web Client. Thank you for that link.
Hmmm.... After reading further, it just seems like more money to have to spend for what amounts to a home lab serving a small business.
I'm not sure I'm ready to spend another $1k or more for maintenance access. :smileyplain:
You can use a scaled down web client to manage the hosts even on a Mac without needing VC. There is a caveat. It was removed in the GM.
However if you have access to an old beta copy of ESXi 6.0, specifically this version : VMware-VMvisor-Installer-6.0.0-1921158.x86_64
You can install that one, browse to the server's IP and it will let you download a Web Client for Windows and OS-X.
Why they took it out of the GM is anyone's guess.
See this article
http://sjston.blogspot.hk/2015/03/omg-vsphere-client-for-mac.html
Hi,
I have installed Vsphere Server 6.0 in my Windows Server 2012 machine. Now I am developing simple vsphere plugin. Now I have to connect my vcenter 6.0 with localhost. But for that, I need to install Vsphere Web Client in my developing machine.. But i couldnt find VSphere Web Client for 6.0 for my developing machine(windows 8).
But for Vsphere server 5.5, there was an external "Vsphere Web Client 5.5".
Now how do i proceed? pls guide me..
browse the ISO....i'm quite sure that there must be a EXE for only installing the WebClient...
vCenter-Server\Packages\Vmware-WebClient.msi
Thanks for your attention.. But I already tried that.. It doesn't do anything. I am afraid that, it's not as easy to develop pluggin like vcentre 5.5
I'm really not sure where your confusion is coming from ... 5.5 did not have a stand alone web client, you needed to install Virtual Centre either Windows install or OVF deployment.
The same holds true for ESXi 6.0. Why not just download the OVF appliance for VC 6.0 and deploy it , tie your host in and use the web-client? You have a 60 day trial. If you're actively developing plugins for this then you probably should have a licensed copy ? At least I would if i was coding against it.
Nothing has changed since 5.5 in regards to how the web client gets installed mate
DJLO that is not true
with 5.5 you can install the WebClient separately from the vCenter. Have a look on the wizard:
http://nolabnoparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/vsphere55updmgr02.jpg?b5ab4e