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    OS X Start menu

    lensv Hot Shot

      Hi, how can I access the start menu on an OS X virtual machine? Normally I just hit the option key when starting up the machine, but this doesn't work here

        • 1. Re: OS X Start menu
          lensv Hot Shot

          Does anyone have an idea of how to do this?

          • 2. Re: OS X Start menu
            WoodyZ Guru

            While I could get Command-R to boot the OS X Recovery I could not get the Startup Manager (not "Start menu") with the Option key.  The only suggestion I have is to select a different Startup Disk in System Preferences and then Restart.

             

            Message was edited by: WoodyZ - Fixed typo.

            • 3. Re: OS X Start menu
              lensv Hot Shot

              Actually, the correct name is StartUP Manager

               

              If this function is forgotten by VMware I suppose that a feature request would be the best next step to take... I might just do that.

              • 4. Re: OS X Start menu
                dariusd Virtuoso
                VMware EmployeesUser Moderators

                Our startup manager (or boot picker, or whatever you wish to call it) is text-only and fairly rudimentary (text only, no icons), but it is there, and you can get to it by holding down Option early enough in boot.

                 

                The easier way to get to it, with the VM powered off, is through the menus in Fusion: Virtual Machine > Settings, choose Startup Disk, then hold down the Option key and you should get a button to allow you to boot the virtual machine into its firmware (EFI).  Choose Boot Manager on the list there and you'll get to our firmware's boot picker.  Or maybe you can do what you need to do just from in Fusion's Startup Disk preference pane, or using the guest OS's own Startup Disk preference pane.

                 

                Cheers,

                --

                Darius

                • 5. Re: OS X Start menu
                  WoodyZ Guru

                  lensv wrote:

                   

                  Actually, the correct name is StartUP Manager

                   

                  Yes, I know that and it was a typo on my part!  I did after all provide a hyperlink so I do know that it's Startup Manager"!

                  • 6. Re: OS X Start menu
                    lensv Hot Shot

                    dariusd wrote:

                     

                    Our startup manager (or boot picker, or whatever you wish to call it) is text-only and fairly rudimentary (text only, no icons), but it is there, and you can get to it by holding down Option early enough in boot.

                     

                    The easier way to get to it, with the VM powered off, is through the menus in Fusion: Virtual Machine > Settings, choose Startup Disk, then hold down the Option key and you should get a button to allow you to boot the virtual machine into its firmware (EFI).  Choose Boot Manager on the list there and you'll get to our firmware's boot picker.  Or maybe you can do what you need to do just from in Fusion's Startup Disk preference pane, or using the guest OS's own Startup Disk preference pane.

                     

                    Cheers,

                    --

                    Darius

                     

                    Accessing this "Boot Picker" (nice & neutral name ) don't seem work at my MBA... Maybe it's just too fast?

                     

                    With your easier alternative I guess that you mean "choose Startup Disk, Restart and then hold down the Option key"? Anyway this won't let me into the firmware either

                    • 7. Re: OS X Start menu
                      Hot Shot

                      No, choose Startup Disk, hold down the Option key, and Restart becomes Restart to Firmware.

                      • 8. Re: OS X Start menu
                        lensv Hot Shot

                        No such option in Fusion 5.0.3...Maybe this is a feature in ver. 6?

                        • 9. Re: OS X Start menu
                          WoodyZ Guru

                          lensv wrote:  No such option in Fusion 5.0.3...Maybe this is a feature in ver. 6?

                           

                          Yes, that feature is only presently available in VMware Fusion 6.x.

                           

                          I refer you back to what I said in my first reply, "The only suggestion I have is to select a different Startup Disk in System Preferences and then Restart."!

                          • 10. Re: OS X Start menu
                            lensv Hot Shot

                            I guess that I'll need an upgrade then...

                            • 11. Re: OS X Start menu
                              dariusd Virtuoso
                              VMware EmployeesUser Moderators

                              Hi again lensv,

                               

                              I'm a bit confused here.  Can you explain what you are trying to achieve here?  Maybe if we knew what your goal is, we could advise you on how to achieve it directly.  Both OS X and Fusion supply a mechanism to select a startup volume, which should cover the vast majority of use-cases for the <Start/Startup/Boot>-<Menu/Manager/Chooser/Picker/Thing>.

                               

                              Almost all the regular OS X boot hotkeys are also available within a VM, although -- as I mentioned earlier -- you have to be a bit speedy to use them directly.  I've prepared some instructions which might help (although you may need to adjust them to suit your aims): Using the Recovery Environment (Recovery HD) in an OS X Virtual Machine

                               

                              Cheers,

                              --

                              Darius

                              • 12. Re: OS X Start menu
                                lensv Hot Shot

                                Well, now I'm confused too...

                                 

                                Is it or is it not possible to enter the Starup Manager (Apple's or VMware's) in Fusion 5.0.3?

                                 

                                *Edit: Just to avoid any misunderstandings, I'm talking about access directly from the startup process here.

                                • 13. Re: OS X Start menu
                                  dariusd Virtuoso
                                  User ModeratorsVMware Employees

                                  I feel we are going in circles here.

                                   

                                  It'd be super helpful if you could tell us what you are trying to do -- at a high level.  What do you want to do in the Startup Manager?  Why do you feel you need to use it?  For example, "I want to force my virtual machine to boot from a CD", or "I have installed a second copy of OS X into one VM and want to choose between them", or "I want to force my virtual machine to boot from the network (NetBoot)", ...

                                   

                                  Thanks,

                                  --

                                  Darius

                                  • 14. Re: OS X Start menu
                                    lensv Hot Shot

                                    All of the above are valid situations… The short and clear answer here is massive labbing. I simply need to access all different boot devices (constantly changing) without having to startup the main system between each switch.

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