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      • 241. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
        glenndm Novice

        @telecastle: thanks for the information.

         

        I suppose the iScsi NAS should ideally use a second reserved nic.

        I thought apple had  a converter thunderbolt>utp for this (although I cannot locate it now)  - would this be fast enough?

         

        glenn

        • 242. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
          telecastle Novice

          Yes, Apple makes a Thunderbolt Gigabit adapter. I'm using it on my Mac Mini 6,2, and it is directly connected to NIC 2 on my NAS with a CAT 6 cable.

           

          It's not the ideal solution. I'm not going to get into the details here, but I cannot have more than one iSCSI target on my NAS because if my ESXi host is reset, only the primary target can be automatically re-connected to the ESXi host. As long as you are OK putting all of your VMs on the same target, you should be fine, though.

           

          The better solution is to use a Gigabit switch, but the connection between the ESXi host's NIC2 and your iSCSI NAS' NIC2 should either be on a separate VLAN from the rest of your network, or if your switch cannot create different VLANs, this connection should be on a separate Gigabit switch.

           

          In ESXi, you should limit iSCSI to only NIC2, and use your primary NIC for administration of the ESXi host and for the LAN connectivity of your VMs hosted on the ESXi host (your Mac Mini).

          • 243. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
            glenndm Novice

            @telecastle: thank you for the clarification of the setup.
            I'll go that route too once I find a silent NAS - I really rate the mini for its lack of noise

            • 244. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
              AK_____28 Novice

              Calling all Coders/Developers:

               

              Anyone want to jump in and help the effort at;

               

              http://www.vm-help.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=4320&start=100

               

              So that we can get more than 2 NICs on these machines?

               

              The USB NIC driver is almost complete.... (I'm sure we'll get it alone, but many hands make for light work.)

               

              Every mac mini user here would benefit from this venture.

               

              If anyone ever wants more than 2 NICs on these machines they'll have to purchase a Thunderbolt Hub, which will be hundreds of dollars at a minimum.

              A USB based NIC is $20.

               

              Just imagine these mini's as host for the Virtual Storage Appliance when you put dual SSD's in them. Quality and speed of service will go drastically up, and server overhead will drastically go down. (No more need for self contained cooling rooms, no more giant racks needed. the possibilities for reducing overhead are endless.)

               

              That's my ultimate goal. I know it won't be officially supported, but enabling USB NIC's would open ESXi to be used by the masses. (I will concede that a XHCI driver for the mini's controller will need a driver as well)

               

              I have a dream, that one day, everyone will have a ESXi Hypervisor at home. 0:-)

              • 245. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
                sirozha1 Novice

                So, can VSA be installed on the same Mac Mini that runs ESXi or are you talking about a three-host scenario with one host being the EXSi 5.x host and two other hosts being VSA hosts? I've just read FAQs on VSA, and it appears that VSA can be installed on two hosts as a minimum so that the internal storage is mirrored between the two VSA hosts, thus providing redundancy.

                 

                If VSA could be installed on the same Mac Mini as the ESXi host, then you could run redundant storage and a bunch of VMs between the two Mac Minis. Of course, you would also have to purchase a vCenter license.

                 

                I still think that the better solution would be to get ESXi to support software raid.

                 

                Thanks

                • 246. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
                  AK_____28 Novice

                  Yes, VSA runs as a VM under ESX.. And yes your right, VSA requires a vcenter license.

                   

                  But that's my ultimate goal, the 2 mac mini scenario.

                   

                  Still USB 3 based NICs would be of value to the entire community. Especially the ones from ASIX Elctronics Corp, which supports;

                   

                  Gigabit Ethernet Controller

                    • Supports IEEE 802.3az (Energy Efficient Ethernet)
                    • IEEE 802.3, 802.3u and 802.3ab compatible
                    • Integrates 10/100/1000Mbps Gigabit Ethernet MAC/PHY
                    • Supports dynamic cable length detection and dynamic power adjustment Green Ethernet (Gigabit mode only)
                    • Supports parallel detection and automatic polarity correction
                    • Supports crossover detection and auto- correction
                    • Supports IPv4/IPv6 packet Checksum Offload Engine (COE) to reduce CPU loading, including IPv4 IP/TCP/UDP/ICMP/IGMP & IPv6 TCP/UDP/ICMPv6 checksum check & generation
                    • Supports TCP Large Send Offload V1
                    • Supports full duplex operation with IEEE 802.3x flow control and half duplex operation with back-pressure flow control
                    • Supports IEEE 802.1P Layer 2 Priority Encoding and Decoding
                    • Supports IEEE 802.1Q VLAN tagging and 2 VLAN ID filtering; received VLAN Tag (4 bytes) can be stripped off or preserved
                    • Supports Jumbo frame
                    • PHY loop-back diagnostic capability

                   

                   

                  With the USB 3 introduction, we really can get Gigabit speeds from these devices at a minimal cost.

                  • 247. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
                    stealth63 Lurker

                    Would the USB NICs be configured to be direclty passed though to the VM, or would they work with ESXi as the thunderbolt enternet adapter does. I love my Mac Mini setup right now, but could really use more NICs.

                    • 248. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
                      AK_____28 Novice

                      These would be ESX host devices. VSA requires 4 NICs per ESX Host.

                       

                      The devices already work for pass through in my testting.

                       

                      Still, VMware will have to make a driver for the mini's XHCI controller before we can get true gigabit speeds, however with the driver currently under devlopement by the user, "Trickstarter" on the vm-help.com/forum, the setup of VSA will work, even if it's not truly running at gigabit speed.

                       

                      (Since currently it runs on the ECHI USB 2 controller it can't really do full 1000mbps since USB 2 is limited to 480mbps)

                      • 249. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
                        stealth63 Lurker

                        That is encorgageing news. I was considering tring this via passthough, but that doesn't fully solve my configuration issue. I'd love to add a couple more NICs via USB.

                        • 250. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
                          sirozha1 Novice

                          So, can VSA be installed on the same Mac Mini that runs ESXi or are you talking about a three-host scenario with one host being the EXSi 5.x host and two other hosts being VSA hosts? I've just read FAQs on VSA, and it appears that VSA can be installed on two hosts as a minimum so that the internal storage is mirrored between the two VSA hosts, thus providing redundancy.

                           

                          If VSA could be installed on the same Mac Mini as the ESXi host, then you could run redundant storage and a bunch of VMs between the two Mac Minis. Of course, you would also have to purchase a vCenter license.

                           

                          I still think that the better solution would be to get ESXi to support software raid.

                           

                          Thanks

                          • 251. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
                            AK_____28 Novice

                            Driver's done. I'm using USB based NIC's on my mac mini now. :-D

                            • 252. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
                              AK_____28 Novice

                              Spoke too soon. Driver does indeed work, however I have terrible upload speeds.. 11-12KBps. Download of 330KBps. So the driver still needs tweaked.

                               

                              Any VMware folks want to help out? It is completely understood it will be unofficial, like the smc fix.

                              • 253. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
                                AK_____28 Novice

                                Issues fixed on USB NIC driver. Same transfer speeds my iMac gets now.

                                 

                                All thanks and props go to Trickstarter on the vm-help.com forums.

                                 

                                Thos interested should go there for more info, and if you download the driver, please make sure to say thanks to Trickstarter for all his hard work, and to add your expereinces so that we may continue to identify issues that may remain.

                                • 254. Re: ESXi 5.x on new Apple Mac Mini 6,2 Late 2012 *NOT* working
                                  AK_____28 Novice

                                  Anyone ever get the latest patch (build 914609) applied to these Mini's successfully?

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