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Workstation 6.5 on Windows Vista x64 host - bridged networking is broken! Very slow shared folder network performance!

I've researched this problem, and have found 200+ websites that have all discussed this problem, and how Workstation 6.5 networking is broken on Windows Vista x64 Host OS machines.

This problem has been discussed here:

http://communities.vmware.com/message/1191779#1191779

The problem is discussed here:

http://communities.vmware.com/message/1044985#1044985

The problem is discussed here:

"Slow network access from XP guest to Vista host"

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/151344

"Horrendously slow network connection between (Vista x64) host and guest"[http://communities.vmware.com/thread/151344|t-99579]

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/99579

I can confirm that this problem still does exist. Does VMWare plan on ever fixing it's broken product?

Some of these posts seem to date all the way back 9+ months! Some of these posts even date all the way back to August 2007! The problem still exists today, and there doesn't seem to be any solution! It seems like VMWare is sleeping on the job. The slow network transfers between guest and host is unbelievable. To transfer a 13MB file, between a Windows Vista Ultimate x64 host and a Windows Server 2008 x64 guest (using shared folders on the Windows 2008 server guest) and map the shared folder on the Windows Vista Ultimate x64 host, and then try to access the mapped folders using the host machine, and try to transfer a file between the host machine and guest (by moving a file onto the shared folder) it took 4 hours and 19 minutes to transfer a small 26MB file.

There is definitely something wrong with VMWare. When does VMWare plan on fixing it's broken product?

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/99579

Here are my system specifications (hopefully this will make sense or help the developers with debugging):

Host: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1

Guest: Windows Server 2008 x64

When trying to use folder/file sharing on the Guest Windows Server x64 OS, if I try to transfer files back and forth over the Virtual network adapter on a shared folder (that is on the Guest Machine) and I try to transfer files or access shared folders (the shared folders from the Guest OS - Windows Server 2008 x64) and try to access the shared folders on the Host machine (by mapping the network share folders to the host machine) the transfer speeds between the Host

and Guest are incredibly slow (definitely broken).

My system specifications are this:

2008/2009 Apple Mac Pro with dual Quad-Core XEON 3.2Ghz processors,

32GB RAM, Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 (native boot), VMware Workstation

6.5.0 build-118166.

I have an Apple Mac Pro with dual Quad-Core XEON 3.2Ghz processors (8 cores), and 32GB of ram as my host machine, and certainly this is not a hardware performance issue with my machine being slow, or running slow. This is not a hardware issue. The problem seems to be a broken network bug in VMWare Workstation 6.5 with a Windows Vista Ultimate x64 host OS. (I have tried this on 5 other machines including a 2009 HP laptop with Windows Vista x64 and 8GB of RAM and all the machines are experiencing the same exact problem).

I'm having the same problem discussed in thse 2 older threads:

"Slow network access from XP guest to Vista host"

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/151344

"Horrendously slow network connection between (Vista x64) host and guest"

http://communities.vmware.com/thread/99579

As well as what is being described by this post as well:

http://communities.vmware.com/message/1044985#1044985

I'm using VMWare Workstation 6.5.0 build-118166, and I've searched

Google, and have read hundreds of posts with uses complaining and

various hacks, but I've had no luck in resolving this issue.

It seems VMWare Workstation 6.5 is having a problem with Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 host OS machines.

I've searched google and tried all the hacks mentioned including:

  • -- disabled IPv6

  • -- disabled "Receive Window Auto-Tuning Level" (netsh interface tcp set global autotuning=disabled)

  • -- disabled "Chimney Offload State"

  • -- disabled SMB 2.0

  • -- disabled SMB signing

  • -- deactived Remote Differential Compression (RDC)

  • -- 127.0.0.1 .host (should only relevant for Shared Folders but I put it in anyways)

None of those changes made any difference.

I don't know what is different about Windows Vista x64 (network stack?) that makes the VMnet functionality broken. But the problem is definitely with Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 machines.

Any ideas how to fix this?

If I read all the other posts, it seems that everyone seems to be

having these same exact problems on a Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 Host, so

is there something different with Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 that

is causing VMWare to break? Any ideas how to fix this?

As a previous poster (Sanjer) has stated:

+*I can verify that I also have this issue. Oddly, it seems to be SMB

specific. (XP 32 Bit "guest" O

+*It is specific to a "bridged" network connection from the "guest" OS to

the "host" OS and SMB mappings. When the network type of the "guest" OS

is set to "host only" the problem (unusable SMB performance between

"guest" and "host" OS) dissapears.*+

For a "bridged" SP "guest" network connection, SMB performance is entirely unusable (slow).

+ *Also strange is that even with the aforementioned "bridged"

host connection SMB performance being slow, the raw TCP/IP throughput

seems unaffected (500 Mbps using the Ixia throughput tool between

"guest" and "host").*+

I checked my settings, and I can confirm that yes... I'm definitely experiencing this same bug with VMWare Workstation 6.5. Yes, my network adapter is "bridged" on my Windows Server 2008 x64 guest OS.

I am running Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 as my host and I am running

Windows Server 2008 x64 Enterprise as my guest OS. I am using VMWare

Workstation 6.5 build-118166, and I have my VMWare network adapter on

the Windows Server 2008 x64 Enterprise GUEST set to "Bridged". It seems to be related to the "bridged" setting on the network VMWare network adapter when running on a Windows Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 host machine.

It does definitely seem specific to a "bridged" network connection from the

"guest" OS to the "host" OS and SMB mappings (shared folders on the

"Guest" Windows Server 2008 x64 machine that when you map the shared

folders on the "Guest" Windows Server 2008 x64 machine and then try to

map those shared folders to your "host" Windows Vista x64 Ultimate

machine the network performance is unusable.

Sometimes it hesitates (lots of lag) just clicking on folders, but if

you try to transfer large files (26MB+) it can take well over 45

minutes or even an hour sometimes. If I do the same exact transfer

between my laptop, and a completely different machine (over the LAN),

the same transfer takes about 20 seconds, but when I do the transfer on

the Windows Vista Ultimate x64 "host" machine, between the host and the

Windows Server 2008 x64 Enterprise "guest" machine, the transfer speeds

between the host and guest are just completely broken.

Sanjer said in his previous post:

For a "bridged" SP "guest" network connection, SMB performance is entirely unusable (slow).

+ *Also strange is that even with the aforementioned "bridged"

host connection SMB performance being slow, the raw TCP/IP throughput

seems unaffected (500 Mbps using the Ixia throughput tool between

"guest" and "host").*+

This is true. The problem seems to be specific to shared folders (SMB)

performance being slow. It seems to be specific to Windows Vista

Ultimate x64 host machines, and I'm running a Windows Server 2008 x64

Enterprise guest OS and I can reproduce this exact same problem over

and over on several different machines.

Any ideas as to when this will get fixed? These posts are over 5+

months old, and I've found several hundred posts on various websites

all complaining/discussing this same problem/issue and there doesn't

seem to be any fix for it.

Could a developer please take a look at this, and please work on fixing

VMWare Workstation 6.5 so that it works correctly on Windows Vista

Ultimate x64 host machines?

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jcolevm
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vmserver slow network drive is the bing keyword I used to find this thread. Smiley Wink

Many thanks to Mark/nextech for doing the leg-work in solving this problem. I spent some time myself with this issue, but thanks to Mark's solution I was able to fix it rather quickly once I found this thread. I registered on ths forum just for the purpose of saying thanks. Thanks! ;

  • VMware Server 2.0.2 Build 203138

  • Host: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Dell XPS 420

  • Intel(R) 82566DC-2 Gigabit

  • Guest 1: SunOS merlin 5.10 Generic_139556-08 i86pc i386 i86pc

  • Guest 2: Microsoft Windows 2000 5.00.2195 SP 4

  • Guest 3: Microsoft Windows 2000 5.00.2195 SP 4

  • Guest 4: Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 SP3

All guest OS's suffered the slow network performance, but are now performing at acceptable rates.

I right clicked on the Local Area

Connection Adapter and went into the Properties then I clicked the

"Configure" button then clicked on the "Advanced" tab settings of the

PHYSICAL Ethernet adapter on my host machine. After click on the

"Advanced Tab" I looked under the "Property" window and I had to

DISABLE the "Large Send Offload v2 (IPv4)" and DISABLE the "Large Send

Offload v2 (IPv6)" on my host machine's network adapter.

I simply disabled the "Large Send Offload" on the host (intel) physical adapter, I didn't even have to reboot the host OS or any VM and the network performance immediately improved. Thanks again bro for the post, saved me a great deal of time.

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kaedinger
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You, sir, are a genius, and saved several days of mine.

My setup: Mac Pro 2008, Windows 7 Professional N 64bit as Host, VMWare Server 2.0.2/203138, Win 2008 R2 64bit as Guest.

Exact same problem, exact same solution. So this does not only apply to Vista, Workstation etc. The problem is still not solved for the most current software versions.

Thanks again.

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ArnorBld
Contributor
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Hi Mark,

I just ran into this after upgrading my host machine from VIsta64 (which had no problems) to Win7-Ultimate along with an upgrade of all the hardware.  Once I started using my virtual machines some network functions were EXTREMELYslow!  Oddly enough writing to shared drives was fine, but reading from them was awful!  And what got me badly was that printing on a printer attached to the host took forever - 5 minutes to spool a single page of text from a code editor!  Printing to other printers on the LAN was fast.

After finding your suggestions I applied them to the driver for the on-board RealTech 1GBit connection and immediately the problem was gone!  THANK you for your post and for your help:)

Best regards,

Arnor Baldvinsson

Icetips Alta LLC

Port Angeles WA

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