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      • 45. Re: vSphere 5 License Query Script - Results Thread
        wdroush1 Hot Shot

        GaryHertz wrote:

         

        I purchased the servers 12 months ago and sized them to allow for at least four years of growth.  Thanks to the new licensing I've just about reached that point already.

         

        So yes, according to the script I'm fine under the new licensing scheme and I'm in the 90% to 95% of users that aren't affected by the new licensing.  Life is good.

        I love how we go from "My 4 years of growth budget being gone" to "life is good".

        • 46. Re: vSphere 5 License Query Script - Results Thread
          bckirsch Novice

          I made a calculator to help me figure out some of the prices differences...Enterprise isn't even worth buying now, your better off with Enterprise Plus.

          • 47. Re: vSphere 5 License Query Script - Results Thread
            iguy Hot Shot

            My environment today is good to go for a little bit:

             

             

            DataCenter1

            Counting physical cpu's and vRAM in your environment. Please be patient...
            ======
            pCpu Count: 201
            vRAM (GB):  3476
            ======
            Resulting license options:

            Edition                                Entitlement            Licenses
            -------                                -----------            --------
            Essentials/Essentials Plus/Standard    1 pCpu + 24 GB vRAM    201 with 1348 GB vRAM overhead
            Enterprise                             1 pCpu + 32 GB vRAM    201 with 2956 GB vRAM overhead
            Enterprise Plus                        1 pCpu + 48 GB vRAM    201 with 6172 GB vRAM overhead

             

            DataCenter1

            Counting physical cpu's and vRAM in your environment. Please be patient...
            ======
            pCpu Count: 163
            vRAM (GB):  3628
            ======
            Resulting license options:

            Edition                                Entitlement            Licenses
            -------                                -----------            --------                                               
            Essentials/Essentials Plus/Standard    1 pCpu + 24 GB vRAM    163 with 284 GB vRAM overhead

            Enterprise                             1 pCpu + 32 GB vRAM    163 with 1588 GB vRAM overhead
            Enterprise Plus                        1 pCpu + 48 GB vRAM    163 with 4196 GB vRAM overhead

             

             

             

            I'm good to go for existing jump to vSphere 5.

             

            Updated:  7/18/11 12:18pm ->  Issues with the script pulling all data was found.   Re-ran with each vCenter instance independently.

            • 48. Re: vSphere 5 License Query Script - Results Thread
              chadwickking Expert

              Since everyone is posting results you mines of well also cast your vote!

               

              So far over 40% say it will cost them more money, in fact over 100%.  Pretty sick and there have been some good comments as well.

               

              We will fall into the greater then 100% in licensing.  We are going to have to purchase an additional 47 licenses on top of 42....

               

              http://virtualnoob.wordpress.com/2011/07/15/vsphere-5-licensing-cast-your-vote/

               

              Please vote and lets see how it goes!

              • 49. Re: vSphere 5 License Query Script - Results Thread
                rgard Novice

                Our company would owe $300k to upgrade from v4.1 to v5. If you are a Microsoft shop and own Microsoft Datacenter as we do, you could effectively download the new Hyper-V R2 SP1 server and move your environment for free. To further the problems for VMWare, If you have a Microsoft EA with entitlements for VDI as we do, it would be free to build out a VDI deployment on Hyper-V vs many hundreds of thousands of dollars for VMWare.

                 

                We have no experience with the new R2 HyperV and clustering with it, however we are already in the process of building out and testing it. The costs to maintain the types of consolidation ratios with VMWare vs HyperV don’t make sense anymore. VMware basically just took themselves out of the market for anyone with a consolidation ratio over 5:1. Our business is WAY over that, with a total virtualization ratio of around 95%. We will build our 2012 projects and budget around this change and likely not go forward with VMWare.

                 

                Two years of price increase from VMWare, that is not a trend we wish to continue.

                • 50. Re: vSphere 5 License Query Script - Results Thread
                  aroudnev Enthusiast

                  There is a difference between  'What you have now' and 'what you will need in next 2 years'.

                   

                  Yes, JUST NOW we fit into ESX5 model. But RAM is cheap and we use our CPU only 10 - 20% so we plan to add more RAM into both big VMware cloud and few small Essential sites. Usual, non expensive dell 710R server need about 64 - 128 GB of RAM to utilize 100% CPU with small /medium size VM guests.

                   

                  IT makes new license absolutely irrelevant and we definitely will never go to the ESX5 licensing; if enforced by dropping old model we will move to other technology. And I will never recommend Essential5 for purchase to anyone while I recommended it to 4 - 5 users (who come to VMware first and was distracted by their high prices for the beginners... before they learn about step by step way as Free -> Essential -> Standard). We easily run 128 - 200 GB of vRAM on DELL 710 in development staging and testing; new model makes it impossible to license (I will pay for the virtual things such as vRAM which never do exist.. thank you).

                   

                  To be relevant, new mode must allow average of 4x - 8x growth NOW; it do not allow any; so it will not survive. ESX4 model do allow it (todays memory is about 32 - 64 GB RAM per 2 cpu server; maximum is 256 GB; pretty relevant to stay with it). It is absoluely clean to everyone. The authors of this model can already request bonuses from Microsoft for the helping them to compete.

                  • 51. Re: vSphere 5 License Query Script - Results Thread
                    iguy Hot Shot

                    Have either of you talked with your VMware Account rep yet?   VMware would love to know what the situation is that is causing you to not be able to go to vSphere 5.   This is off topic for the purpose of this thread. 

                     

                    Can you post your data from the License Query Scripts so we can see your situation from solid numbers?

                     

                    Thanks

                    • 52. Re: vSphere 5 License Query Script - Results Thread
                      iguy Hot Shot

                      What version of Powershell are you running?  This error leads me to believe your running on the stock powershell on Windows 2008 which is Powershell v1.   Upgrade to Powershell 2.0 RTM and try again.

                       

                      Windows 2008 32bit: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=11829

                      Windows 2008 64bit: http://www.microsoft.com/download/en/details.aspx?id=20430

                      • 53. Re: vSphere 5 License Query Script - Results Thread
                        iguy Hot Shot

                        What does your VMware Account rep say about the $300k to go to vSphere 5? 

                        • 54. Re: vSphere 5 License Query Script - Results Thread
                          mindli Lurker

                          Hi,

                           

                          I'm a SMB customer. Nevertheless, we licensed Enterprise Plus because of it's features. We also tried not to pack that much VMs on our servers as others seem to do. We always like to have enough headroom for possible server outage and performance. This means we're luckily in a quite comfortable situation, as you can see in my license validator results below. The average vRAM assigned to our VMs has always been between 3 and 4 GB, going from 1 GB to 16 GB max.

                           

                          We have 8 Dell PowerEdge R710 with 2 CPUs (6 cores) and 72 GB RAM each.

                           

                           

                          license_validator.jpg

                          • 55. Re: vSphere 5 License Query Script - Results Thread
                            Jwalsh2 Novice

                            All,

                             

                            All,

                             

                            I will be out of the office Wednesday through Friday.   I will have limited email access and might not respond to you until Monday August 1st.

                             

                            If this is related to a prodcution issue please call the SOC at 847-467-6662 and ask for either the OS or Storage Team be paged depending on your need.

                             

                            John

                            • 56. Re: vSphere 5 License Query Script - Results Thread
                              Rumple Master

                              For clarity of this thread. Mindli - see my response in this thread http://communities.vmware.com/message/1800336

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