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      • 30. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
        rickardnobel Virtuoso

        golddiggie wrote:

         

        Is that 8GB per socket/CPU or total??

         

        From the small amount of information that seems to be available it is 8 GB of the now infamous "vRAM", that is the total amount of RAM that you could give to your VMs together.

        • 31. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
          medic29 Enthusiast

          Although this may significantly defeat the purpose of new features in v5, but can anyone speculate on the vRAM being disabled and v4 individual physical server memory allowances be used? I have a PE 2950 with 32GB installed available as a dogfood server and would love to put v5 on when it is available for a test drive. But if only 8GB will be available I can't see the logic in even considering it.

          • 32. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
            swamisant Lurker

            Please provide me a link with details for ESXi free. Specifically 8GB vRAM limit.

            • 33. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
              rickardnobel Virtuoso

              swamisant wrote:

               

              Please provide me a link with details for ESXi free. Specifically 8GB vRAM limit.

               

              The free version of ESXi  is called "VMware vSphere Hypervisor" as a product and the information could be found here:

               

              http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere-hypervisor/faq.html

               

              in a small final question at the bottom of the page:

               

              "How much vRAM does a VMware vSphere Hypervisor license provide?

               

              A vSphere Hypervisor license includes a vRAM entitlement of 8GB."

               

              • 34. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
                KingsX Lurker

                Goodbye vmware! I'm off to XEN or Hyper-V

                • 35. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
                  GVD Novice

                  I'm not ready to say goodbye, but yes, I do think this will mean that a lot of "testing the water" setups will now be ignoring VMWare's solutions. 8 Gb might be OK for a brief test drive, it is by no means sufficient to do a prolongued test in a real working environment.

                   

                  Quite frankly, all our codemonkeys have more RAM in their laptops than this Hypervisor allows the VMs to use (combined!).

                  • 36. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
                    rickardnobel Virtuoso

                    It is still somewhat unclear if there is almost unlimited RAM available (up to 1 TB per virtual machine) or 8 GB of vRAM in total.

                     

                    VMware says both things: http://rickardnobel.se/archives/620

                    • 37. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
                      RogerThomas Novice

                      Rickard wrote:

                       

                      It is still somewhat unclear if there is almost unlimited RAM available (up to 1 TB per virtual machine) or 8 GB of vRAM in total.

                       

                      VMware says both things: http://rickardnobel.se/archives/620

                      Considering the fact that even where you purchase the top of the range version of ESX 5.0 you only receive a grant of 48GB of vRAM I would go with the 8GB limit

                       

                      To licence a ESX server to 1TB you are looking at 21 top end enterprise licences with list at about $110,000 before SnS fees.

                      • 38. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
                        medic29 Enthusiast

                        I just found this link for an article more or less explaining vRAM.  One of the sentences which jumped straight out was - if no more vRAM is available, the VM will not be powered on.

                        Well... if this stays true for an 8Gb limit then yeah I would say the only thing the v5 DVD will be good for is target practice.

                        Although if the v5 install follows the same method v4 uses, then running it in unlicsensed mode for however long (60 days?) may be a workaround to not limit 'Free mode'.

                         

                        http://thinkcloud.nl/2011/07/13/vmware-licensing-vram-entitlement-explained/

                        • 39. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
                          GVD Novice

                          It's only logical, medic29. If the Essentials and Essentials Plus has a hard limit (the other licenses do not), then the free Hypervisor will also have a hard limit. It would cause an even larger riot if the free version had more rights than the Essentials...

                          • 40. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
                            ZeroGravity201110141 Novice

                            Rickard wrote:

                             

                            It is still somewhat unclear if there is almost unlimited RAM available (up to 1 TB per virtual machine) or 8 GB of vRAM in total.

                             

                            VMware says both things: http://rickardnobel.se/archives/620

                            Read the other features listed on the Compare page, that list is listing the technical features of ESX not necessarily the licensed features. It's pretty straightforward.

                            • 41. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
                              rickardnobel Virtuoso

                              GVD wrote:

                               

                              then the free Hypervisor will also have a hard limit. It would cause an even larger riot if the free version had more rights than the Essentials...

                               

                              It is still kind of unusual to try to make the competitors look bad for "only" allowing 64 and 32 GB per VM and for your own product only allow 8 GB in total.

                               

                              There is something serious incorrect on the information page for vSphere Hypervisor 5 at the moment. It would be nice if VMware could give information what is true, 8 GB total or 1 TB per VM?

                              • 42. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
                                GVD Novice

                                I'd say that the 1 TB limitation is the platform (architectural) limitation. The 8 GB is the licensing limitation.

                                Capable of 1 TB with the right license (like what? 21 Enterprise+ licenses? :P), but without a license it's only 8 GB.

                                 

                                I hope I'm wrong, but I've seen no one refute this.

                                • 43. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
                                  rickardnobel Virtuoso

                                  ZeroGravity wrote:

                                   

                                  Read the other features listed on the Compare page, that list is listing the technical features of ESX not necessarily the licensed features. It's pretty straightforward.

                                   

                                  It is not pretty straightforward. Look at the top of the chart which very clearly states that is features of the "VMware vSphere Hypervisor 5.0" listed. The whole page is about the free version. The chart obvious gives incorrect information regarding the differences between VMwares free version and Hyper-V and XEN.

                                  • 44. Re: esxi 5 free hypervisor?
                                    spiralscratch Novice

                                    I had been planning to set up one or two test/trial machines using v5, but the limit of 8GB on vRAM absolutely kills it. I can't imagine any kind of substantial setup that could fit within so little vRAM. It makes more sense to go with physical servers instead.

                                     

                                    The licensing scheme across the entire v5 line is absolute insanity.

                                     

                                    I'm now looking towards Xen or KVM instead.

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