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hkannan
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Does Capacity Planner provide placement recommendations?

Does capacity planner provide which VM to place on what target physical host?

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amvmware
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Yes - when you perform the analysis the server modelling will give you a breakdown of which VM's sit on which host and the utilisation levels for CPU, RAM ..etc for the host server specification you have selected.

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wathap
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yes, it does.

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amvmware
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Capacity planner will tell you how many hosts of a certain specification you will need to host the systems in the scope of the analysis. You can select the server hardware specification - either create your own or select from pre configured hardware specs based on vendors such as HP, SUN, IBM...etc.

You will need to still factor in host redundancy requirements - so always add a minimum of 1 host to the number of hosts calculated by the tool.

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THanks for the responses - My specific question is, does Capacity planner explicitly say VM1 can be placed on Host1, VM2 on Host1, VM3 on Host2, VM4 on Host3 etc..

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amvmware
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Yes - when you perform the analysis the server modelling will give you a breakdown of which VM's sit on which host and the utilisation levels for CPU, RAM ..etc for the host server specification you have selected.

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lanamarkinc
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If you are serious about optimizing VM placement, have a look at Lanamark Suite. It helps you optimize the number of needed servers (N, N+1) and then balances VMs across VM hosts using key metrics (CPU, memory, etc...). Lanamark Suite can also help you optimize storage performance by sizing and balancing virtual disks across VMFS data stores.

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VMmatty
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I'll just throw out there that while it does give you specific host placement recommendations, I generally don't find the information to be all that useful. It's good to know that the environment is capable of running all of your workloads and which are heavy in which resource (CPU, disk, etc), so for that Capacity Planner is absolutely invaluable. I guess my issue has to do with DRS/VMotion. That is, DRS will automatically place VMs on specific hosts based on current utilization, whereas Capacity Planner is making a recommendation based on the workload's average utilization.

If you leave DRS in Fully Automated mode, it will move VMs around based on current workloads and will invalidate the findings of Capacity Planner. Yet turning that feature off negates the very real workload optimization that if offers.

So I guess my advice to you is this - use the data that it gives you but be realistic about what the future state environment will look like. Look at which servers are good candidates and design your own environment from there.

Matt | http://www.thelowercasew.com | @mattliebowitz
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amvmware
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VMMatty i agree with the majority of your comments.

I would not recommend that any customer should see the results of capacity planner as a view of the long term strategy for their virtual environment. Capacity planner just like all virtual assessment software answers the following questions.

Are my current physical servers good candidates for virtualisation based on the results of the analysis.

If they are good candidates then how many hosts would i need to support this requirement.

(There are other bells and whistles with CP - some of it is legacy, but this is the core of what the product does)

Over time a VM will change as the application requirements will change and in a virtual environment the ability to move the workloads around to ensure the optimum utlisation of resources is what hopefully should be achieved by using features such as vMotion \ DRS.

A virtual assessment using capacity planner, platespin, Cerba or our friends Lanamark is a snapshot of the servers at that point in time (normally 30 days) and should not be seen as the end of the journey - capacity planning and trend analysis of the virtual environment should be performed to ensure it is delivering optimum performance - by capacity planning i mean making sure there is enough available storage of the right type, CPU and RAM resources ..etc.

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jasoncllsystems
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Just wonder why you concern about the which VMx sitting on which ESX hosts. Please bear in mind that at the end of the day, vSphere DRS, HA & VMotion will take in place.






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