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chouse Hot Shot 193 posts since
Sep 20, 2006
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May 3, 2007 7:11 AM

Critique my VDI design - 1500 XP VMs, 38 HP blades, 2 EVA8000

We are a hospital replacing 1500 desktop PCs before our new campus opens in the fall with thin terminals connecting back via RDP to 1500 WinXP VMs as a VDI solution.

 

2 datacenters

6 HP c-class blade chassis, 3 in each datacenter.

 

38 HP ProLiant BL480c blades with dual Quad-Core Intel® Xeon® 5300 Series processors and 24GB memory (3GB per core)

 

8 blades per chassis

 

4 NICs on each blade, 2 to each internal chassis cisco switch (one uplink each to core datacenter cisco 6513).

 

VLAN VMotion and Service Consoles (seperately)

 

2 EVA8000, 1 in each datacenter. 2 clusters will use "EVA1" as primary storage with CA to "EVA2". 2 clusters will use "EVA2" as primary storage with CA to "EVA1".

 

38x300GB FC drives (one diskgroup), 22x500GB FATA drives (another diskgroup)

 

4 ESX clusters with DRS & HA

VDI-A: 10 ESX (5 in each datacenter), 400 VMs (40 VM per ESX with room for complete datacenter failover: 80 VMs/ESX with 5 ESX)

VDI-B: 10 ESX (5 in each datacenter), 400 VMs (40 VM per ESX with room for complete datacenter failover: 80 VMs/ESX with 5 ESX)

VDI-C: 10 ESX (5 in each datacenter), 400 VMs (40 VM per ESX with room for complete datacenter failover: 80 VMs/ESX with 5 ESX)

VDI-D: 8 ESX (4 in each datacenter), 320 VMs (40 VM per ESX with room for complete datacenter failover: 80 VMs/ESX with 4 ESX)

 

8 datastores per cluster/ESX host (one LUN per datastore)

512GB LUNs (50 VMs with 10GB C: drives + config/log/vm swap \[50 * (.5*512MB)=12.8GB swap])

 

VMs are WinXP SP2 with 512MB memory, 10 GB C: drives. Altiris used for imaging & customization (initially deployed from templates w/customization spec). Appstream used to stream apps.

 

Did I miss anything? Can anything be improved? We are looking for failover capability as well as management efficiency.

LeaV97 Enthusiast 41 posts since
Sep 13, 2005
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1. May 3, 2007 7:16 AM in response to: chouse
Re: Critique my VDI design - 1500 XP VMs, 38 HP blades, 2 EVA8000

It look very similar to what we are doing for virtual servers.  Except we are using XP12000's.

 

My biggest concern would be the amount of free space available on your LUN's.  Maybe I read it wrong.  My understanding is the best practice is to not go over 80% utilization of space.

 

If you have 50 VM's using 10 GB each and ~ 13 GB of swap, you are going to use 100% of your space.  Not a good idea.

conyards Expert 505 posts since
Sep 22, 2006
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3. May 3, 2007 7:35 AM in response to: chouse
Re: Critique my VDI design - 1500 XP VMs, 38 HP blades, 2 EVA8000

I would argue that this is dependant on the LUN function.

 

This LUN is going to contain growing files in logs, so you do need to put some headroom.

 

If it was just holding VMDK files and nothing else then perhaps you can squeeze the space a little.

mreferre Virtuoso 3,096 posts since
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4. May 3, 2007 7:58 AM in response to: chouse
Re: Critique my VDI design - 1500 XP VMs, 38 HP blades, 2 EVA8000

Is 40 vm's per 2-way quad-core blade a number based on real life measurements or that is what you would expect to see ?

 

Massimo.

Massimo Re Ferre' VMware vCloud Architect twitter.com/mreferre www.it20.info
LeaV97 Enthusiast 41 posts since
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7. May 3, 2007 8:09 AM in response to: chouse
Re: Critique my VDI design - 1500 XP VMs, 38 HP blades, 2 EVA8000

I can understand wanting cheaper storage.  The only reason we're using the 12000's is it is for servers.

 

The 40:1 ratio doesn't look out of line to me from the testing we have done with XP VM's.

daniel_uk Expert 1,026 posts since
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8. May 3, 2007 1:15 PM in response to: chouse
Re: Critique my VDI design - 1500 XP VMs, 38 HP blades, 2 EVA8000

Cheaper storage and your choosing an EVA love it!

 

Tell me how did you get buy in for this type of implementation?

 

What are your expected deployment times based on this number of Images?

conyards Expert 505 posts since
Sep 22, 2006
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10. May 3, 2007 2:10 PM in response to: chouse
Re: Critique my VDI design - 1500 XP VMs, 38 HP blades, 2 EVA8000

Sounds like a great project to work on, I've got friends working in hospitals in the UK still struggling with 486's for some things... I get told off for talking VDI at them

 

Good luck with the project, sounds very worthwhile and rewarding

 

Simon

shahboy Novice 11 posts since
Jul 24, 2006
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11. May 3, 2007 5:27 PM in response to: chouse
Re: Critique my VDI design - 1500 XP VMs, 38 HP blades, 2 EVA8000

What are you using to manage the connections or are you doing a 1:1 design?

 

-Richpo

sipsipi Enthusiast 23 posts since
Sep 27, 2006
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12. May 3, 2007 6:44 PM in response to: chouse
Re: Critique my VDI design - 1500 XP VMs, 38 HP blades, 2 EVA8000

This sounds like the most awesome-est project, but, why not go with a terminal services project?  Do you have applications that don't play nice with Citrix or TS?

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