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Re: USB over IP

15. Sep 6, 2007 9:02 AM in response to: kchawk
Click to view OaktonIT's profile Novice 20 posts since
Jul 11, 2007
I have the Digi AnywhereUSB and it works great except for the fact I can only connect 1 VM at a time to it. The Belkin one seems like a better solution and cheaper. Any success yet? I'm going to order one to try it out today.

Re: USB over IP

16. Sep 6, 2007 10:29 AM in response to: OaktonIT
Click to view kchawk's profile Enthusiast 44 posts since
Mar 19, 2007
I hope to have it next week to begin testing :)

Re: USB over IP

17. Sep 11, 2007 7:14 AM in response to: kchawk
Click to view guser's profile Enthusiast 65 posts since
May 15, 2006
Mr. kchawk, did you have any success with the belkin product?

regards,
/guser

Re: USB over IP

18. Sep 11, 2007 9:32 AM in response to: guser
Click to view evanstra's profile Enthusiast 51 posts since
Oct 12, 2005
Based upon the messages here on the VMTN we went with the Digi product. Works great --unless-- you are using Veritas Configuration Manager (now owned by Symantec). There is a conflict in the driver and VCM blue screens the server.

We turn off VCM and the Digi/USB product flat out works! Would like to be able to connect more than one server to one USB device though.

Eric

Re: USB over IP

19. Sep 17, 2007 6:56 AM in response to: OaktonIT
Click to view OaktonIT's profile Novice 20 posts since
Jul 11, 2007
I have the Belkin USB hub now but it doesn't work with Windows 2003, ugh!

I'm not about to deploy XP/Vista servers.

Re: USB over IP

20. Sep 17, 2007 8:04 AM in response to: evanstra
Click to view Snova's profile Hot Shot 136 posts since
Apr 18, 2005
I installed the Lantronix device server once. One cool feature is that you can connect from many servers to this usb-server and dedicate each of the 4 ports to another server.
You don't have to buy 4 devices if you want to connect 4 license dongles, just buy one :-)

Re: USB over IP

21. Sep 18, 2007 7:11 AM in response to: guser
Click to view kchawk's profile Enthusiast 44 posts since
Mar 19, 2007
The belkin Network USB Hub works great, with the exception of not working on w2k3. You can connect one vm to a usb drive attached to the hub and another to another usb drive attached to the hub. A step in the right direction, now for w2k3 support.

Re: USB over IP

22. Oct 13, 2007 10:46 AM in response to: kchawk
Click to view hyper5peed's profile Lurker 1 posts since
Apr 15, 2007

I am also looking for a hardware solution that supports sharing USB over IP (aka USB Servers). Here is information about 5 hardware devices, that I obtained from their websites:

Keyspan - model U2S-2A (2-port)
- supported OS: WinXP or Vista (32bit), MacOS X v10.3.9 or greater
- supports 8 connections???
- does not currently support attachment of USB hubs (expected in future firmware)
- PROS: claims it can support any USB device that is NOT an isochronous device or an ILOK dongle by PACE
CONS: Limited documentation for this model

Silex technology - model SX-2000U2 (1-port)
- supported OS: W2K, WinXP, Vista, MacOS X
- supports 15 connections (incl. hub)
- PROS: Frequent firmware updates, supports more connections
- CONS: only one port

Lantronix - model UBox 2100 (2-port)
- supported OS: W2K, WinXP
- supports 8 connections???
- Isochronous audio/video support
- PROS: First and currently only to claim to support isochronous transfers
- CONS: Limited documentation on this model

Belkin - model F5L009 (5-port)
- supported OS: WinXP,Vista (incl 64bit), MacOS 10.4 (beta)
- supports 16 connections
- PROS: Sexy looking, supports more connections, comes already with 5 ports, claims it may supported isochronous transfers in future update
- CONS: reports suggests poor performance with drives, but this may be a perception issue

IOGear - model GMFPSU22W6 (2-Port)
- supported OS: W2K, WinXP
- supports 5 connections
- PROS: supports a storage server mode, allowing multiple user access
- CONS: don't have any info yet on this model

I am only comparing USB2.0 hi-speed (upto 480Mbps) models, even though most of these mfg have full-speed (upto 12 Mbps) models too. All seem to sell for approximately $130 and support common features like WLAN compatible, printer auto-connect share, 500mA power per port. Plus some mfg are looking to add more features in future firmware and driver releases. Early testing suggest that these units perform marginally better than USB1.1 devices, due to the network connection (latency), but I am curious about the performance of the Lantronix model that claims to support isochronous transfers.

Re: USB over IP

23. Nov 21, 2007 2:21 AM in response to: hyper5peed
Click to view LiamGP's profile Enthusiast 60 posts since
Feb 14, 2007

I'm now in the same position, have a USB dongle I need to get working with a VM. This is about the best thread I've found and hyper5peed has made a good comparison.

I think I will go for the Keyspan or the Lantronix. Leaning towards the Lantronix as it seems to support everything and it should fit niceley to the side of a rack.

The AnywhereUSB is out because it can't share its ports with more than 1 VM at once.

Let me hear your experiences with any of these devices though.

Thanks!

Re: USB over IP

24. Dec 5, 2007 5:02 PM in response to: LiamGP
Click to view franklinb's profile Novice 6 posts since
Sep 27, 2006

Same here! Thanks for all the informative posts everyone. Once again the vmware forums come through with the goods!

I'm wanting to virtualise a license server for PSCad that uses the HVDC License Manager, and Safenet SuperPro USB dongle.

Originally I was just looking at the Digi but did not realise it would only share its ports with 1 server. That isn't a problem at the moment since I only have 1 USB requirement, however you never know when another one might come up.

Re: USB over IP

25. Jan 9, 2008 12:19 PM in response to: Crowey
Click to view mterry's profile Novice 6 posts since
Feb 15, 2007

Crowey,

Did you happen to find a USB over IP solution that works with Linux? Thanks!

Re: USB over IP

26. Mar 20, 2008 5:16 AM in response to: OaktonIT
Click to view OaktonIT's profile Novice 20 posts since
Jul 11, 2007

After getting the Belkin hub I was disappointed with the fact it did not support Windows 2003 and only XP and Vista. Even testing with a virtual XP machine I could not get the Belkin to work. It did work with Virtual Server but not with ESX.

I then purchased the Lantronix 4 port hub and it worked beautifully. I use it for license servers and this is the only model we will buy going forward.

Re: USB over IP

27. Mar 20, 2008 9:22 AM in response to: OaktonIT
Click to view cb_007's profile Novice 4 posts since
Mar 20, 2008

Here is my experience :

We have a Win XP box with an aladdin usb dongle (HASP HL 3.21) and we want to convert it to a VM running on an ESX 3.5 server.

This week, we bought a Lantronix UBox 4100 and installed it to work with the XP box. It works perfectly with different usb devices EVEN with the aladdin dongle, so the protected software starts exactly the same than before.

Next step : I used the 'VMware converter enterprise' CD to convert my XP box directly to my ESX server (so no trouble with the missing usbd.sys in \windows\system32\drivers) and the Lantronix UBox USB Device Server starts OK, connection to UBox is OK, connection to usb dongle is OK. Well, all seems exactly the same that with physical XP box BUT my protected software doesn't start because it doesn't find the dongle ! I tried other usb devices (memory keys, usb HD drives) that work perfectly but no way with the aladdin dongle.

So we have to find another solution.

Re: USB over IP

28. Mar 20, 2008 9:39 AM in response to: cb_007
Click to view OaktonIT's profile Novice 20 posts since
Jul 11, 2007

I am also using an Aladdin Key (HASP 2.17) with Windows 2003 so I did not have issues with usbd.sys. The only problem I had with the Aladdin key was the License Service was starting before Windows initialized communcations with the key. So I set the license service to start manually and setup a vb script to run on startup that waits 20 seconds then starts the license service. No problems after that.

Does the USB Device Server software have any issues reconnecting with the key?


Re: USB over IP

29. Mar 20, 2008 1:30 PM in response to: cb_007
Click to view DCasota's profile Hot Shot 114 posts since
Mar 7, 2006

Hi,
We tested an alladin usb key with anywhere Usb from digi.com and it worked great without any issues.

Just a thought: Did you cleanup your newly created VM after the p2v process? -> Maybe there is a problem with hidden devices which prevents your software to work correctly. To unhide these devices:
set DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
start devmgmt.msc
Select "Show hidden devices" option

Hope it helps.

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