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Unable to install Vista 5472.5 posted: Aug 18, 2006 11:03 AM

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Athena
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Oct 29, 2004
I wasn't able to install Vista 5472.5 in VMWare 5.0 so I was glad to see the 5.5 update. Unfortunately, it didn't help.

I see that VMWare Server build 27828 users are able to load this build of Vista. When can those of us with Workstation expect a fix?

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

1. Aug 18, 2006 11:22 AM in response to: Athena
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nick.couchman
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Jan 13, 2006
Are you running Workstation 5.5.2? What sort of issues are you having? Vista Beta is listed as an experimental O/S for Workstation 5.5.2 and Server 1.0.1. Perhaps you could describe what problem you're experiencing so that others can possibly help you out.

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

2. Aug 18, 2006 11:23 AM in response to: nick.couchman
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RDPetruska
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Jan 11, 2005
Nick, it's listed as a known issue - cannot install build 5472 on the newest Workstation. My answer is (I just have the Public Beta 2 version installed) don't try to upgrade Vista yet!

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

3. Aug 18, 2006 11:35 AM in response to: RDPetruska
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Athena
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<< Nick, it's listed as a known issue >>

I see that now. I just assumed that since the problem was fixed in VMServer, it would be fixed in the recent update for Workstation too. As you note though, it is listed as a known issue in the Release Notes.

I'm still using my Beta 2 VM but I really need to move ahead with 5472.5.

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

4. Aug 18, 2006 11:41 AM in response to: Athena
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KevinG
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Jan 8, 2004
Use VMware Server to install July CTP build 5472 and install the VMware Tools. You may be able to copy this VM over to workstation and run it there if needed.

Work is in progress on this issue, as noted in the release notes for WS

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

5. Aug 18, 2006 11:53 AM in response to: KevinG
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Athena
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<< Use VMware Server to install July CTP build 5472 and install the VMware Tools >>

Okay, I just found the free download for VMWare Server. I'll use that for the time being.

Thanks.

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

6. Aug 18, 2006 12:10 PM in response to: RDPetruska
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nick.couchman
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But I was planning on upgrading all of my production servers to Vista Beta this weekend!!

;-)

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

7. Aug 18, 2006 12:16 PM in response to: nick.couchman
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RDPetruska
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But I was planning on upgrading all of my production
servers to Vista Beta this weekend!!

;-)


LOL! Well, you still *can*. Just not the latest version of Vista beta.

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

8. Aug 18, 2006 3:12 PM in response to: RDPetruska
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petr
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Jul 10, 2003
Actually July Vista runs even under WS5.5. You just cannot see its display without Tools installed...

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

9. Aug 21, 2006 9:34 AM in response to: KevinG
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Athena
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Use VMware Server to install July CTP build 5472 and
install the VMware Tools.

This doesn't appear to be a solution. I have no idea which of the 4 setup files I need to run just to get started and I couldn't find a coherent explanation of them.

I really think VMWare should have some sort of FAQ for customers who are facing this. I have used VMWare Workstation since version 2 for development and testing and I really think I'm owed a product that can run the current tbetaware.

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

10. Aug 21, 2006 9:38 AM in response to: petr
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Athena
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Actually July Vista runs even under WS5.5.

Since I cannot even install Vista 5472.5 in WS5.5 -- it hangs at the first step of setup -- I have no idea whether or not it might run.

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

11. Aug 21, 2006 9:39 AM in response to: Athena
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RDPetruska
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I really think VMWare should have some sort of FAQ
for customers who are facing this. I have used
VMWare Workstation since version 2 for development
and testing and I really think I'm owed a product
that can run the current tbetaware.
So complain to Microsoft for continually changing the guts of their new OS while it's in beta testing! Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on this one. I don't understand how you can expect a software company (like VMware) to stay on top of another software company's (MS in this case) beta cycle on something as deeply involved as an OS and device drivers, kernel modules, etc. I believe that VMware's doing the best job they can here. If they release a product which they are Supporting, then they need to run their product through a QA cycle. This takes time! And if MS is constantly changing the underlying code in their beta software (which they have absolutely every right to do, BTW), VMware can't possibly keep up its QA cycle fast enough to release updates to their customers.

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

12. Aug 21, 2006 10:00 AM in response to: RDPetruska
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Athena
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You are right, we disagree.

I understand that VMWare cannot foresee changes that Microsoft makes and I don't expect things to work perfectly during a beta cycle.

But I'm talking about documentation for a known problem -- known for over a month. There is no reason there could not be some discoverable documentation to tell VMWare customers how to work around it.

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

13. Aug 21, 2006 10:58 AM in response to: Athena
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KevinG
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Jan 8, 2004
You are right, we disagree.

I understand that VMWare cannot foresee changes that
Microsoft makes and I don't expect things to work
perfectly during a beta cycle.

But I'm talking about documentation for a known
problem -- known for over a month. There is no
reason there could not be some discoverable
documentation to tell VMWare customers how to work
around it.


known for over a month by who? Not VMware
It was recently discovered and documented in the WS 5.5.2 release notes.

Re: Unable to install Vista 5472.5

14. Aug 21, 2006 12:04 PM in response to: Athena
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petr
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Jul 10, 2003
Actually July Vista runs even under WS5.5.
Since I cannot even install Vista 5472.5 in WS5.5 -- it hangs at the first step of setup -- I
have no idea whether or not it might run.

This is simple not true. It does not hang. You just do not see what is shown on screen, but if you'll run Vista install on real hardware side by side and everything you do on real hardware (or VMware Server) where you can see display you'll do on WS5.5 as well (where no display is shown), at the end you'll have Vista installed in both WS5.5 and on real hardware/VMware Server.
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