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Free P2V posted: Dec 30, 2005 10:47 AM

Click to view chuss's profile Master 974 posts since
Jul 2, 2004
Hey guys,

The preliminary testing was a success!

I created a BartPE (bootable Windows XP environment) that injects the
LSILogic or BusLogic SCSI drivers in to a newly Ghosted VM. I got the
plugin from a thread off the VMTN board.

Basically, I Ghosted a physical XP machine to a VM (on ESX 2.5.2), peer2peer, disk2disk,
then used the plugin on the BartPE disk to hack the registry and install
the LSILogic SCSI driver into the VM.

IMPORTANT NOTE!!!
I rebooted the VM before injecting the LSILogic driver and got a
BSOD...which is to be expected. After the driver was injected, there
was no more BSOD!!! Later, I was able to install the VMware Tools inside the VM to
complete the process.

This method is alot faster and easier than the current P2V method from
VMWare, and best of all, it's FREE! To my knowledge, all you really need is a licensed
copy of Ghost and a XP license to pull this off before you can legally create and use the
disc. What are we talking here...maybe $200 for unlimited P2V's!

I boot the physical box with the BartPE cd and boot the VM from the BartPE iso sitting in the /vmimages folder on the ESX server. Launch Ghost 8 on both, make the physical box the peer master and the VM the peer slave, Ghost disk to disk, inject the LSILogic driver when the Ghosting process is done, reboot, and finish by installing the VMware Tools inside the VM.

What do you guys think? Can the process be improved?

Chris

Re: Free P2V

1. Dec 30, 2005 10:58 AM in response to: chuss
Click to view Mike_Laverick's profile Virtuoso 4,064 posts since
Jan 5, 2004
Sounds good to me :-)

Can you fully document the process - like for the pluggin, adding the pluggin to BartPE disk, and registry hack process and so on....

If you like just give me the basic proceedure and I will do a fully PDF job on it suitable for a novice to get up and running...

I have a some documentation which runs through BartPE on my website - so it could be easily copied and reworked for this...

Incidentally, have you tested this on NT4/W2K/3 - as these a probably more common P2V Physicals than WinXP...

Regards
Mike Laverick
RTFM Education - VMware
Guide to P2V 2.x

Re: Free P2V

2. Dec 30, 2005 11:04 AM in response to: chuss
Click to view BrianG's profile Champion 3,670 posts since
Oct 31, 2005
Yup - Lot's of ways to do it for free.

Re: Free P2V

3. Dec 30, 2005 11:09 AM in response to: BrianG
Click to view Mike_Laverick's profile Virtuoso 4,064 posts since
Jan 5, 2004
Yup...

there are lots of ways of doing the copy process for free... such as Ghost, G4L, Partition Magic, CAT-ing of disks...

But while these methods offer varying methods of getting the system state from a physical disk to a virtual disks... few of these home-grown methods document the process of dealing with the disk controller issues that result from BusLogic/LSILogic support...

I've not seen many posts about reliable/quick methods of doing the "system reconfiguration" magic that the P2V offering do....

I must admit - home grown P2V is on my list to do... but not had chance to start the process off... I've always thought some kind of system recovery or re-running the install process and supplying the mass-storage device drivers from floppy would be the easiest solution...

What's been your experience of this?

Regards
Mike

Re: Free P2V

4. Dec 30, 2005 12:48 PM in response to: Mike_Laverick
Click to view BrianG's profile Champion 3,670 posts since
Oct 31, 2005
My experience is that although there are many ways to do it, for free. The time spent on items that you mentioned make the canned options worth the money.

The P2V Assistant for converting is worth the money. Use what ever method you like best or are most comfortable with to get the data to the P2V Assistant.

Because we all know that "the P2V boot CD is supplied as a convenience and works with a limited set of hardware"

Bri

Re: Free P2V

7. Dec 30, 2005 1:49 PM in response to: chuss
Click to view BrianG's profile Champion 3,670 posts since
Oct 31, 2005
I agree as well.

We have done P2Vs for customers with and without VMware P2V. Both are good options. Bart, Knoppix, Platespin, LeoStream Ghost and VMware P2V all have their place - hell Backup/Restore works with some effort.

Like you said all depends on how much time vs. money vs effort you want to spend.

And don't give it away, our Knowledge and our Skillsets are why "We have the potential of making the "Big Bucks" some day" :D :D

Mi Splelin was treble on this one - shud tri the splel cec.

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Re: Free P2V

8. Dec 31, 2005 1:50 AM in response to: chuss
Click to view Mike_Laverick's profile Virtuoso 4,064 posts since
Jan 5, 2004
Mike,

I can document the process with screenshots. I've
been wanting to talk to you about creating a "VMware
Pocket Admin Guide" together. You have alot of
wonderful pdf's on your site already. I would love
to turn them into a little book to maybe hand out to
my students or the other engineers. There are a few
good 3rd party VMware books out there now...but a
handy pocket reference would be even better.

All of the tips and tricks that we all share on this
forum could make a nice little reference/best
practice guide.

What do you think?

Congrats on getting your VCI, btw. I've noticed you
on the private instructor forum. It's about time
VMware gave you your due.

Chris Huss
VCP, VCI


That would be great Chris... I want to start to look at home-grown P2V processes. I think the whole thing turns on the issue of making the P2V'd VM bootable - as they are many many ways of copying the data. If you write a document I would be more than happy to proof it for you and offer any suggestions. In fact I will be the novice and try to reproduce your process here. When your done - I would be happy to host the white paper in a PDF/HTML format on my site if you like with appriopriate credits to you - I also a have a email newsletter with subscribers which it could go on to as well...

Incidentally, I've always used W2K3 as the source for my BartPE - as it has LSILogic driver which means it can be used as an ISO with a Virtual Machine too...

As for the pocket guide idea - I think we chat about this before didn't we? I've found some people saying they pop my pdfs on their PDA's - not sure how practical this is - and whether the guides are formatted approapriately (i doubt this is the case...) T

o be honest my plate is full right now - so I am not looking at any new projects. My next "big" task is to pick-up VI 2, and the P2V course when its released in EMEA next year... I also I have to crank up the marketing machine to get some courses/revenue in!

If you want to go ahead with this "pocket guide" idea without me and rework my material - than just do that - as long as I get a credit as source thats all I ask... :-)

Kind Regards
Mike

Re: Free P2V

10. Jan 2, 2006 3:21 AM in response to: chuss
Click to view AMcCreath's profile Master 1,071 posts since
Jan 7, 2005
Chris,
If you do get something together I would be very interested.
We are about to tackle this task and would'nt mind a time saver if thats ok?
:-)

Thanks,
Andrew

Re: Free P2V

12. Jan 3, 2006 12:56 AM in response to: chuss
Click to view Mike_Laverick's profile Virtuoso 4,064 posts since
Jan 5, 2004
Ready and waiting :-)

Regards
Mike

Re: Free P2V

14. Jan 4, 2006 7:31 AM in response to: chuss
Click to view Jasemccarty's profile Champion 3,806 posts since
Apr 5, 2005
Ghost is free?

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