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3 Replies Last post: Nov 7, 2009 7:04 AM by GregBradley  

Backing up a single ESXi v4 Server posted: Nov 5, 2009 9:42 AM

Click to view GregBradley's profile Enthusiast 17 posts since
Apr 24, 2008

My customers mostly started out with several boxes with one of them having a tape drive, Seagate Backup Exec, and installing agents for the other servers, Exchange, SQL, etc. As most of the functions were virtualized onto one server (HP ML370G5, now going to G6) I was continuing to put the agents on the MS servers and continue as before. I was keeping one old server and using it for the tape backup unit.

I'm thinking there is a better way. The versions of Backup Exec are getting old and should be updated.

I'm demoing v12.5 which says it backs up VMWare. No info on doing this if you just have a single server running ESXi. It wants to "connect" tot he ESX host with a user name and password. Is this possible with a single ESXi machine?

Most customers would be happy keeping one old server for the tape and backup software since I frequently have something that doesn't virtualize very well - like the customer that has a bunch of parallel dot matrix printers or some such old technology.

I was thinking of one upgrade to v12.5 and an agent for ESX that backs up the entire ESXi machine.

Tape drives are getting too-small for many. I can go to bigger SAS DAT drives and put it in the ESXi machine if that works better.

I don't have a problem buying something additional from VMWare but would prefer to minimze the number of boxes so don't want to go to seperate management servers, etc.

Am I approaching this correctly?

Re: Backing up a single ESXi v4 Server

1. Nov 6, 2009 1:15 AM in response to: GregBradley
Click to view Dave.Mishchenko's profile Guru 8,976 posts since
Nov 15, 2005
Hi Greg, I haven't looked at the Backup Exec agent specifically, but ESXi is quite different from ESX and one of the differences is that you can't install an agent onto ESXi so it's unlikely that the ESX agent would work with ESXi. Are you using ESXi free or a licensed version? Check out this document for options and note the restrictions for the free version. http://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-10780 If you have purchased a license, with Essentials you get VCB which some of the commercial products use for backup to the backup server or the Essentials Plus bundle includes Data Recovery, but with these options you would have to keep your backup server around.

You used to be able to attach a backup device to an Adaptec card and then use a generic SCSI device to grant a VM direct access to the tape unit. But that seems to be gone with ESXi 4.0, although you could do the same with VMDirectPath should your host support that.

Should you go with one of the free scripts, you could setup the current backup server as a NFS server and then mount a datastore on it. You could then backup to the datastore, and then to tape after that. Also remember to backup the config of your ESXi host. http://www.vm-help.com/esx/esx3i/esx_3i_rcli/vicfg-cfgbackup.php

Dave
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Re: Backing up a single ESXi v4 Server

2. Nov 6, 2009 2:15 AM in response to: GregBradley
Click to view AndreTheGiant's profile Guru 5,984 posts since
Aug 28, 2008
I'm demoing v12.5 which says it backs up VMWare. No info on doing this if you just have a single server running ESXi. It wants to "connect" tot he ESX host with a user name and password. Is this possible with a single ESXi machine?
From: http://eval.symantec.com/mktginfo/enterprise/other_resources/b-backupexec_12.5_faq_10-2008_69739.en-us.pdf
What versions of ESX and ESXi are supported with Backup Exec 12.5 AVVI?
Backup Exec 12.5 AVVI supports most current versions of ESX 3, including 3.0.2 through
ESX 3.5 Update 2 including ESXi 3.5.
Probably is not the last FAQ cause there isn't vSphere.

In any cause you can also use BE without AVVI, but only with VCB (but you need VCB license on ESXi). In this case there isn't any problem.

Andre

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