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Help me pass regualtory BS with VMware posted: Oct 30, 2009 9:15 AM

Click to view MassiveOverkill's profile Enthusiast 32 posts since
Nov 30, 2007
So part of our problem getting VMware validated is that our regulatory dept. classifies it as an Operating System. I have found documentation that it's a kernel, not an OS, especially in the modern definition of an OS. In the legacy definition, I guess it can be called one. What hurts us more is that VMware's own KB documentation refers to ESX as an OS, which really kills me. Anyone have any suggestions?

Re: Help me pass regualtory BS with VMware

1. Oct 30, 2009 9:27 AM in response to: MassiveOverki…
Click to view jamieorth's profile Expert 542 posts since
Apr 28, 2005

What industry regulations are holding you back? I myself would classify vmware vsphere as an OS. It installs (or is embedded), it operates, it can be configured, etc. If you look at some of the definitions of what an operating system is - "software that controls the execution of computer programs and may provide vaiours services" for examply, tell me how that vshpere is not an OS?

If security is the issue, then obvious design and planning must be performed so that the OS is installed in accordance to regulations or company standards.

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3. Oct 30, 2009 1:13 PM in response to: MassiveOverki…
Click to view jamieorth's profile Expert 542 posts since
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I was just using vshpere as reference - ESX and vSphere to me would be classified as an OS as they are bare metal installations.

When you say 510K are you referring to the FDA 510K? I am not familiar with it but have heard of that. My background is on primarily Federal Banking regulations.

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4. Oct 30, 2009 1:33 PM in response to: jamieorth
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Nov 19, 2005
If it is te FDA reg - there are many FDA regulated businesses using ESX - so I am sure it has been addressed and answered -

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Re: Help me pass regualtory BS with VMware

5. Nov 4, 2009 8:56 AM in response to: weinstein5
Click to view Texiwill's profile Guru 10,205 posts since
Jan 13, 2004
Hello,

There are two components to vSphere/ESX 4/ESX 3....

There is the hypervisor component, which I would think is really an appliance... and ...

There is the management appliance often referred to as the Service Console for ESX or the Management Appliance for ESXi. This component could be considered an OS as you can run arbitrary code, etc.

Given that ESX 3/ESX 4 boots into the vmkernel, creates a VM, then boots the management appliance within this VM ...
Given that ESXi 3/ESXi 4 boots into the vmkernel then starts the BusyBox Posix Environment

I would not classify ESX 3/ESX 4 as an OS and I would not classify ESXi as an OS either as there are many appliances (switches, etc.) that also run BusyBox so there is a proven track record for use of BusyBox as an appliance.

ESX is often mistaken for Linux. It is NOT Linux it is a appliance that understands VM and vSwitch objects, etc. It however either has a GNU/Linux or Posix Management Appliance.


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