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Greatly reduced memory usage when using new Windows XP virtual machines created with Windows Easy Install in Fusion 3.0 ? posted: Oct 27, 2009 12:51 AM

Click to view khe91's profile Novice 13 posts since
Jul 18, 2007
From the 3.0 release notes:

"Greatly reduced memory usage when using new Windows XP virtual machines created with Windows Easy Install in Fusion 3.0."

Does this mean i have to reinstall all my 2.x XP VM's from scratch to get this greatly reduced memory usage ?

Thanks,

Karsten
Click to view Pat Lee's profile Master 1,192 posts since
Jan 3, 2007
Yes. With newly created XP VMs (as well as any existing Vista and Win7 VMs, no changes are required for Vista or Windows 7), we no longer used buffered IO which reduces the memory impact on the Mac.

We require to create a new XP VM to take advantage of this due to having to layout the disk differently from the start, which we can only do with XP on a fresh VM.

JUST TO MAKE THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR, existing Vista and Windows 7 VM do not require changes to take advantage of this. It is only Windows XP that requires you create a fresh VM

Pat
Click to view mikel51's profile Novice 5 posts since
Jan 4, 2009
Would using the import command after installing VMware3 take care of this? or would one have to do a fresh OS installation after upgrading to VMware3?

Format and reinstall

3. Oct 27, 2009 4:24 AM in response to: Pat Lee
Click to view GlennyG's profile Novice 11 posts since
Nov 16, 2008
Oh joy. One of the main benefits of Fusion 3 relies on completely reinstalling everything. Hopefully I can find an XP install disk. And loads of application discs. And several hours.

It would be really nice to have a converter utility.

Question: with this new disk format, is it incompatible with VMWare for windows? One of the benefits of VMWare over Parallels is being able to take a VMWare/Windows VM and run it on the Mac and vice-versa. Is this still possible after going through the tedious windows XP re-installation process?
Click to view NineSpot Solutions's profile Novice 7 posts since
Sep 8, 2008
Is this feature available to virtual machines that use Boot Camp partitions or only to disk images created in VMWare?

Re: Format and reinstall

5. Oct 27, 2009 5:42 AM in response to: GlennyG
Click to view GordonChil's profile Lurker 2 posts since
Oct 30, 2008
You might be able to convert by using a utility like Clonezilla. Create a new machine with a new drive... add the existing machine's drive as an extra one... then attach the clonezilla iso to the new machine and boot from the iso. You should then be able to clone the disk using disk to disk copy.
Click to view JMandersonBM's profile Novice 3 posts since
Oct 27, 2009
Two questions:

1. Would running a VMware convert on the machine make the disks what they need to be?


2. Could you run a full backup of your existing machine to disc, you create a new basic XP machine and restore the backup into it ?

Re: Format and reinstall

7. Oct 28, 2009 6:57 PM in response to: GlennyG
Click to view ehutzelman's profile Novice 4 posts since
Feb 4, 2009
Another vote for a converter utility. Most people have hours in customizing and updating their XP installs, so a reinstall is probably not going to be worth it.

Re: Format and reinstall

8. Oct 29, 2009 4:13 AM in response to: ehutzelman
Click to view onomatopej's profile Novice 28 posts since
Aug 13, 2008
If it is just the matter of the disk image format, why not let users to convert their images?
Unfortunately Disk Shrink does not have any effect here. Tried...

VMWare please reply us, how we can migrate old disk images to the new format. For most of us reinstalling guest system is NO GO.

Re: Format and reinstall

9. Oct 29, 2009 11:10 AM in response to: onomatopej
Click to view pascalpp's profile Lurker 1 posts since
Oct 29, 2009
John Siracusa got a response from VMWare via twitter:

https://twitter.com/vmwarefusion/statuses/5264532602
Click to view maglite's profile Novice 18 posts since
Mar 8, 2008
oh deep joy. so, all this hype about Fusion 3.0 being a better product than 2.0 is predicated on me converting or rebuilding my virtual machines to take advantage of the new format. why vmware, did you not think to yourselves "hmmm, I wonder if our user base has lots of existing machines they'd like to convert?"...gee, I wonder. couldn't you have put something like a decent converter in there amongst the mix of new stuff coming out with Fusion 3.0 or at least SPELT IT OUT A BIT MORE CLEARLY. oh sorry, if you did that not many people would want to spend money on an upgrade in the droves that they obviously did as it crashed the upgrade portal.

hopefully someone will document a method that works, or (shock) vmware will release a 2.0 -> 3.0 VM converter.
Click to view ozarkcanoer's profile Enthusiast 32 posts since
Nov 21, 2007
Guess I'll put off buying the Fusion 3.0 upgrade until VMWare provides some way to convert my XP VM, built under Fusion 1 then converted to Fusion 2, to the new optimal Fusion 3.0 format.
Click to view msmiller's profile Novice 8 posts since
Oct 29, 2009
The vmware PC2Mac migration utility is not working for me. There also does not appear to be ANY option to generate a 3.0 VM from my existing PC locally anymore.

3.0 with my 2.0.6 XP VM is actually using on average about 20% MORE memory. On top of that it is running slower. I've spent hours trying to resolve VMware Tools in the new 3.0 VM. One issue after another and what I have after a few days worth of effort is an XP VM that runs slower now than it did last week.

I made the mistake of believing the positive reviews I've read in articles, rather than looking at the forums -- what a mess. I'm reverting back to 2.0.6.
Click to view bellacoola's profile Novice 22 posts since
Oct 27, 2009

Try out the solution I stumbled across here.

Does this help?

.../j

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