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Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

15. Nov 7, 2008 2:01 PM in response to: sgorham
Click to view reidg1785's profile Lurker 4 posts since
Apr 14, 2008
Gave it a shot on one of my ESX servers. VMotioned all the VMs onto another server while updating this one. After it was rebooted and out of maintenance mode I moved some VMs on to it, ones that didn't really matter if they had a problem, and within minutes they just rebooted. Once they are on the server they seem OK. Just out of curiosity, I moved one back to the Update 2 server and it didn't reboot. When I moved it back to the U3 server it rebooted again. Has anybody else experienced this? I couldn't bring both servers to U3 to see if it was just a compatibility issue between U2 and U3 after the VMotion because I didn't want to have the major servers go reboot.

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

16. Nov 7, 2008 2:20 PM in response to: RParker
Click to view Jasemccarty's profile Champion 3,806 posts since
Apr 5, 2005

Yeah,

We follow the HCL too, in production.

But we also test... Because often times, being on the cutting edge of tech/patches/features... doesn't necessarily agree with current configurations. And that's why you test...

When downtime can cost you or your customers millions of dollars... It doesn't really pay to be on the cutting edge right away.

Cheers.

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

17. Nov 10, 2008 4:52 AM in response to: Full_Halsey
Click to view zik's profile Novice 18 posts since
Oct 2, 2007
Agreed, but testing would not have uncovered the 3.5U2 bug.

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

18. Nov 10, 2008 5:20 AM in response to: Dave.Mishchen…
Click to view Jasemccarty's profile Champion 3,806 posts since
Apr 5, 2005

I would...

Well, I'm going to try to play with that some today, as the box isn't usable without any VM's, and I can't have any VM's without a datastore...

I'll post what I find.

Jase McCarty
http://www.jasemccarty.com
Co-Author of VMware ESX Essentials in the Virtual Data Center
(ISBN:1420070274) from Auerbach

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

19. Nov 10, 2008 12:52 PM in response to: Jasemccarty
Click to view qmcnetwork's profile Enthusiast 37 posts since
Dec 9, 2004

Updated 4 ESX servers so far and no issues. I upgraded 3 IBM x346 servers thru VI Update Manager plugin to ESXi 3.5U3. The only thing was I had to run it through remediation 3 times. The first time I think it failed because it tried to apply an older patch (U2 maybe). The second time it applied U3 just fine, but didn't install the tools package. Finally I ran the remediate again to install tools.

On the 4th system, a HP bl460c blade, I remediated to ESX 3.5U3. No issues except it too about 50 to 60 minutes to complete. I thought that was kinda long. I plan on doing the next 6 blades just like it this week.

-Jonathan

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

20. Nov 10, 2008 5:44 PM in response to: RParker
Click to view grndmstr's profile Novice 10 posts since
Aug 14, 2008
some of us prefer production uptime, reducing the cost to the business and less users yelling at us when something is broken rather than being HARDCORE and staying ahead of the curve..

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

21. Nov 10, 2008 5:47 PM in response to: Dave.Mishchen…
Click to view tolstoy143's profile Enthusiast 22 posts since
Sep 25, 2008

U3 has rendered my NFS datastores unable to come online after a host reboot, and therefore my VMs will not autostart.

I have a thread in this group. I basically have to refresh my datastores to bring them online, then manually start my VMs.

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

22. Nov 11, 2008 3:16 PM in response to: grndmstr
Click to view 240Zeus's profile Novice 14 posts since
Jul 2, 2008

Absolutely! In enterprises where downtime means a potential of millions of dollars of lost revenue, I prefer to actually have my infrastructure functional and use the lab for what it should be used for - learning/testing. If you're learning in your production environment, that is pretty "hardcore" if that's really the word you prefer to describe that practice with. I think some of us would choose a different term.

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

23. Nov 11, 2008 4:49 PM in response to: Jasemccarty
Click to view Jasemccarty's profile Champion 3,806 posts since
Apr 5, 2005

Dave,

I put the old settings in my simple.map, and then rebooted the host.

I could then see the controller properly, but couldn't see my VMFS volume.

I then modifed the LVM.EnableResignature = 1 host setting, and rescanned my storage controllers.

I could then see the VMFS volume.

The funny thing is, after another several reboots, the simple.map reverted to the old settings, but I could still see the storage.

Strange.

Jase McCarty
http://www.jasemccarty.com
Co-Author of VMware ESX Essentials in the Virtual Data Center
(ISBN:1420070274) from Auerbach

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

24. Nov 11, 2008 8:09 PM in response to: 240Zeus
Click to view twoodland's profile Enthusiast 38 posts since
Sep 15, 2008
Unfortunately, not everyone has lab environments, like the location of my employment. But, when that is the case, it's nice to let those with lab environments hammer on the update for a while before proceeding. I'm not sure how responsible it is to rush into a new release on something supporting business critical applications, certainly not "hardcore."

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

25. Nov 11, 2008 11:22 PM in response to: reidg1785
Click to view peetz's profile Expert 273 posts since
Sep 25, 2004

Hi,

do you have Virtual Machine Monitoring enabled in the HA options?

According to this post this might be a problem in U3. I have not tested this myslf so far. Anyone else?

  • Andreas

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

26. Nov 15, 2008 6:24 AM in response to: reidg1785
Click to view jrglines's profile Novice 25 posts since
Aug 28, 2005
All VM's experienced a forced reset after VMotion so tested it by shutting down a VM, moving it from the U2 to U3 host, and restarting. Same result, forced reset.

Also found the following in the system log of each vm:

Event ID: 44

Windows has detected that the system firmware (BIOS) was updated

previous firmware date = 01/30/08, current firmware date 07/22/08

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

27. Nov 15, 2008 6:36 AM in response to: RParker
Click to view williambishop's profile Master 1,159 posts since
Mar 9, 2006
This will eventually bite you in the keester.

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

28. Nov 17, 2008 8:24 PM in response to: jrglines
Click to view bitsorbytes's profile Enthusiast 51 posts since
Nov 11, 2006
@reidg1785 - Do you have auto upgrade of the tools turned on?

It seems a 'bug' that the tools auto upgrade and then restart! Even though the checkbox is called 'Check and upgrade tools before each power-on"

BEFORE each power on doesn't seem to the be the case!

Re: 3.5U3 - any guinea pigs yet?

29. Nov 18, 2008 5:50 AM in response to: bitsorbytes
Click to view reidg1785's profile Lurker 4 posts since
Apr 14, 2008

That option is diabled on all my VMs.

-Reid

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