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Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

30. Oct 24, 2008 12:38 PM in response to: davidliu
Click to view Gangee's profile Enthusiast 87 posts since
Sep 15, 2007

Hi David,

I'm happy to help.

I'll install this build. Question:

1) should I install it with the settings I currently have (I downgraded my Virtual Machine -- which took the boot times from almost 9 minutes to about 3 1/2 minutes), or would you prefer I change something first (Upgrade the Virtual Machine)?

Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

31. Oct 24, 2008 12:41 PM in response to: Gangee
Click to view bgertzfield's profile Master 1,120 posts since
Sep 7, 2005
Gangee wrote:

1) should I install it with the settings I currently have (I downgraded my Virtual Machine -- which took the boot times from almost 9 minutes to about 3 1/2 minutes), or would you prefer I change something first (Upgrade the Virtual Machine)?


Hi Gangee,

We didn't make any changes in this release that would impact VMs with different hardware revisions.

Please try first without upgrading your virtual hardware, and let us know how long your boot takes.

Then, please try again after upgrading the virtual hardware.

Thanks!

Ben

Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

32. Oct 24, 2008 12:54 PM in response to: Gangee
Click to view neving's profile Lurker 4 posts since
Jun 27, 2007
3 1/2 minute boot times would drive me nuts; I think this was about the time it was taking mine to boot, initially, in 2.0. Did you check the 'Applications' folder in your VM? I moved the app files out of here and it appeared to help me. I do have a slightly different setup, though.

Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

33. Oct 24, 2008 1:40 PM in response to: bgertzfield
Click to view Gangee's profile Enthusiast 87 posts since
Sep 15, 2007
1) When I did the new install, it took 5 1/2 minutes to boot. VMWare tools didn't load, I think it was doing an install of new tools? At about 8 minutes it told me to reboot, to finishing installing tools.


2) I rebooted, my desktop booted up with all the services I load in about 3 1/2 minutes. Winblows feels snappy, performance is pretty good. Much better than I'm used to, downgrading the Virtual Machine really made a difference.


3) I then Upgraded the Virtual Machine. Boot up to the desktop was right at 9 minutes, 15 seconds. Winblows feels sluggish.


4) I then downgraded the Virtual Machine, booted up in just under 4 minutes. Back to performance in #2, above.

Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

34. Oct 24, 2008 1:45 PM in response to: Gangee
Click to view bgertzfield's profile Master 1,120 posts since
Sep 7, 2005
Gangee wrote:

I then Upgraded the Virtual Machine. Boot up to the desktop was right at 9 minutes, 15 seconds. Winblows feels sluggish.


OK. This is definitely a problem. I'd like to help narrow this down by asking a few questions:

1) Is this your (non-Boot Camp) Windows Vista Ultimate VM that you previously talked about, or is it another VM?

2) Was this VM created with VMware Fusion 1, or was it imported from Parallels or another product?

3) Can you please reply to this post and attach your VM's configuration (.vmx) and vmware.log files after a sluggish boot? You can get your VM's configuration file by going to Finder, browsing to your Documents/Virtual Machines folder, then control-clicking or right clicking on your VM and choosing "Show Package Contents".

4) Can you try powering off your VM, then opening your VM's configuration (.vmx) file in TextEdit, and looking for lines like:

pciBridge0.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge4.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge5.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge6.present = "TRUE"
pciBridge7.present = "TRUE"

and changing them to:

pciBridge0.present = "FALSE"
pciBridge4.present = "FALSE"
pciBridge5.present = "FALSE"
pciBridge6.present = "FALSE"
pciBridge7.present = "FALSE"

then start up your VM again.

Thanks,

Ben

Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

35. Oct 24, 2008 3:01 PM in response to: bgertzfield
Click to view Gangee's profile Enthusiast 87 posts since
Sep 15, 2007


Greetings and salutations from Eagle, CO!

I can answer 1 and 2, I'll answer the rest tomorrow (I'm out of cycles for today).

1) Yes, it's a non-Boot Camp Windows Vista Ultimate (that I've been talking about). Not, another VM.

2) It's a machine originally imported from Parallels.

I'll get the rest to you this weekend.

Thanks for your help!

Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

36. Oct 24, 2008 3:24 PM in response to: Gangee
Click to view bgertzfield's profile Master 1,120 posts since
Sep 7, 2005
Gangee wrote:
2) It's a machine originally imported from Parallels.

OK. We have reproduced this issue (imported Parallels Vista VMs take an excruciatingly long time to boot once upgraded to Hardware Version 7).

To confirm you're hitting this issue, please right click on My Computer, select Manage, and go to Event Viewer. If you see tons and tons of lines like:

"IRQARB: ACPI BIOS does not contain an IRQ for the device in PCI slot 24, function 3. Please contact your system vendor for technical assistance."

then this is definitely the issue with the new PCI bridge devices in Hardware Version 7 conflicting with something Parallels has done to make Vista work with their ACPI implementation.

Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

37. Oct 24, 2008 7:36 PM in response to: davidliu
Click to view matthewls's profile Hot Shot 262 posts since
Oct 11, 2007
I installed the 2.01 beta despite not having boot up time problems, and it continues to work great. It does seem a bit quicker than the 2.0 release in any case.

Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

38. Oct 26, 2008 10:48 AM in response to: bgertzfield
Click to view Gangee's profile Enthusiast 87 posts since
Sep 15, 2007
Hi Ben,

All pcibridge*.* entries were already set to 'FALSE', except pcibridge0, which I changed from TRUE to FALSE.
Attached are the log files you asked for.

FWIW, when I switched over from Parallels, it didn't go smooth. So, maybe my issue has something to do with that? I'm getting a new MacBook Pro in another month or so and I plan to install Fusion and Vista from scratch. So I'm sure that'll help.

Thanks!
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Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

39. Oct 26, 2008 10:48 AM in response to: bgertzfield
Click to view Gangee's profile Enthusiast 87 posts since
Sep 15, 2007
Hi Ben,

I looked around in Event Viewer, couldn't see anything. I looked in System and Application. Would they be near the top? What Event ID?

Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

41. Oct 26, 2008 3:20 PM in response to: davidliu
Click to view manfredell's profile Hot Shot 189 posts since
Dec 23, 2006
davidliu wrote:

Thanks for the responses so far. We have been working on the performance issues in the past couple of weeks and we think we identified and fixed most of them. But we need your help: download the private build 125077 from http://ftpsite.vmware.com/download/Fusion20/VMware-Fusion-2.0.1-125077.dmg, power off your VMs, upgrade to this build, and see if it fixes the slow boot times for you. Please report back to this thread with your results.

WARNING: this private build is meant for users to verify fixes to the performance issues seen in VMware Fusion 2.0 release. It is not fully tested and thus NOT suited for general use in a production environment. In another word, use this build at your own risk.

  • Fixed a bug that causes daily AutoProtect snapshots not to be taken.

Installed this over 2.0

I still find that the daily autosnapshots are not taken. I can't find a change in behaviour from the buggy 2.0 here

Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

42. Oct 27, 2008 10:39 AM in response to: Gangee
Click to view bgertzfield's profile Master 1,120 posts since
Sep 7, 2005
Gangee wrote:

All pcibridge*.* entries were already set to 'FALSE', except pcibridge0, which I changed from TRUE to FALSE.

Hmm, that's odd. Did you change them to FALSE yourself?

Attached are the log files you asked for.

The log file says you were running virtual hardware version 6, which means the VM had not been upgraded to version 7. Were you encountering the slow boot times before upgrading the virtual hardware? I thought you saw them after upgrading.

FWIW, when I switched over from Parallels, it didn't go smooth. So, maybe my issue has something to do with that?

What happened when you switched over from Parallels?

I see that you have a Seagate USB storage device directly connected to the virtual machine. It looks like you might also have the Apple iSight set to directly connect.

Can you try disconnecting these devices from the menu Virtual Machine -> USB to see if that helps at all?

Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

43. Oct 27, 2008 10:41 AM in response to: manfredell
Click to view bgertzfield's profile Master 1,120 posts since
Sep 7, 2005
manfredell wrote:
I still find that the daily autosnapshots are not taken. I can't find a change in behaviour from the buggy 2.0 here

Hi manfredell,

Can you post the vmware.log file from inside your virtual machine?

Are you running the virtual machine continuously for 24 hours? The daily AutoProtect snapshot will only be taken once for each 24 hours the virtual machine is running. (It does not take it once a day at a specific time.)

Thanks,

Ben

Re: Bug hunt: Extremely slow boot times

44. Oct 27, 2008 12:00 PM in response to: bgertzfield
Click to view manfredell's profile Hot Shot 189 posts since
Dec 23, 2006
Hi,

No I don't run it continually. I resume it, work in it, 30 mins/day, suspend it.

I expect it to see when 24hrs have passed since last time suspended, or working or whatever and then to snapshot it. Who runs Win 24hrs?? I have a Mac!
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