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Re: Windows Server 2008 Slugish and slow to boot

15. Apr 14, 2009 7:04 AM in response to: Dr No
Click to view rlund's profile Enthusiast 77 posts since
Jan 22, 2008

I am running Exchange 2007 on Server 2008, with 2 vCPU's and 6 GB's of memory without a hitch.

Reboots are fast, are we talking about local disk or san?

What version of server 2008?

Roger Lund

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http://rogerlunditblog.blogspot.com/

Re: Windows Server 2008 Slugish and slow to boot

16. Apr 14, 2009 7:33 AM in response to: rlund
Click to view Marco Germann's profile Novice 8 posts since
Aug 9, 2008

Hello,

my VM config:

  • Windows Server 2008 Enterprise x64 R1 SP1
  • 2vCPU (plain Windows install with 2vCPU ALU)
  • 8GByte RAM
  • System drive C:\ as vmdk on VMFS v3 - SAN Storage (HP EVA 4400, 4GBit/s FC 4path)
  • DATA drive D:\ RAW LUN mapping - SAN Storage (HP EVA 4400, 4GBit/s FC 4path)

ESX config (4Node Cluster):

  • Dual Quad Intel Xeon 2GHz
  • 24GByte RAM (32GByte planned)
  • 4x 4GBit/s FC controller (SAN)
  • 10x 1GBit/s Ethernet controller (LAN)


A Windows Server 2008 x64 VM with less than 4GByte RAM boots up in 10 seconds, more than 4GByte RAM takes about 1 Minute to come up.

ESX-Host that host the Exchange 2007 VM has, when Exchange VM is running, 20% CPU and 70% RAM usage.

Best regards

Marco Germann

Click to view rlund's profile Enthusiast 77 posts since
Jan 22, 2008
Well, mine maybe takes 30 sec's or so, but I would not call that a problem.

5-10 min, is another story.






Roger Lund

My Blog:

http://rogerlunditblog.blogspot.com/

Re: Windows Server 2008 Slugish and slow to boot

18. Apr 17, 2009 4:32 AM in response to: Dr No
Click to view Zahni's profile Novice 11 posts since
Jul 29, 2008

Try to set Mem.ShareScanGHz = 0 in Advanced Config and reboot.

There are know issues with 64-Bit Windows-VM's in ESX...


Re: Windows Server 2008 Slugish and slow to boot

19. Apr 17, 2009 3:03 PM in response to: Zahni
Click to view tallsky's profile Novice 5 posts since
Nov 10, 2008
That was it exactly Zahni, thanks.

http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=1004901&sliceId=1

"using certain hardware", yea sure, pass it off. Like any recent Xeon proc?

I'm using Xeon 5410, by the way.

I hope they fix this in 4.x, memory sharing is a cool feature. Most these VMs run at less than %10 memory. Conservative oversubscribing is very valuable.

Sucks to have to turn it off.

Re: Windows Server 2008 Slugish and slow to boot

20. Apr 19, 2009 7:36 AM in response to: tallsky
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Mar 16, 2009
I'm just wonder why not 4vCPU?

Personally I never never configure 1vCPU for my PRODUCTION VMs and normally 4vCPU.







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Click to view aleph0's profile Expert 420 posts since
Oct 28, 2004

What you are doing configurig 4 vCPU is really wrong. It's more difficult to find 4 cores free at the same time than find 1 core free. so your scheduler work very bad. Probably you'll have high %RDY time and VMs that performs worst that they can do if they have 1 vCPU...


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Re: Windows Server 2008 Slugish and slow to boot

22. Apr 20, 2009 3:25 AM in response to: tallsky
Click to view Sanjana's profile Hot Shot 180 posts since
Sep 25, 2007

tallsky,

Sucks to have to turn it off.

There are two workarounds to the issue. The first one requires you to just power cycle the VM (powerOff --> powerOn). I'm just curious as to why do you want to disable page sharing instead. (production VM, perhaps?)

Thanks,

--sanjana

Re: Windows Server 2008 Slugish and slow to boot

23. Apr 20, 2009 10:52 AM in response to: Sanjana
Click to view tallsky's profile Novice 5 posts since
Nov 10, 2008
I certainly don't "want" to.

Re-Read the KB article.

The boot delay is only the most immediately noticable symptom.

We've also experienced slow performance of the running system. The KB article is 100% right on. There's a serious problem here.

(It is pre-production. But intended for production, yes).

It would be nice if you could disable page sharing for individual VMs and retain it for others.

Even better, fix the Copy on Write issue newer processors have introduced to the ESX code.

Better still, both!

Click to view dsulli's profile Lurker 1 posts since
Jan 29, 2008

I had the same issue and it turned out to be that the guest was assigned more memory then the memory resource limit was allowing it to have. Once I set the memory resource limit to Unlimited, the guest booted fine.

Edit Settings > Resources > Memory

Hope that helps you too..

Re: Windows Server 2008 Slugish and slow to boot

25. Aug 14, 2009 5:01 AM in response to: tallsky
Click to view Poort443's profile Enthusiast 26 posts since
Mar 12, 2009

Check the following thread: http://communities.vmware.com/thread/140931?start=45&tstart=0

Here robertl30 states:

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"Good news. VMware came back with some good info on how to better work around the issue where we see large VMs (over 4GB RAM) that have very long restart times. At first they had us turn off Page Sharing at the ESX host. But it turns out we can disable this feature on a per-VM basis.

I added the Advanced VM setting "sched.mem.pshare.enable" option to False (Edit Settings, Options, Advanced, General, Configuration Parameters, Add Row). I then moved the VMs to production hosts that did not have the Page Sharing feature disabled. I restarted each server twice and the performance was normal.

VMware also provided guidance on how to determine the effectiveness of Page Sharing in general. The tool to use is in the ESX CLI and is called "esxtop". Press M to bring up the memory page and observe data on the PSHARE row.

VMware also is stating that they are still looking at engineering a fix for ESX 3.5, but that the problem is already fully resolved in vSphere 4."

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I tried these steps and they solved the problems I had with x64 on "certain" hardware.


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