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Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

15. Aug 12, 2008 10:02 PM in response to: rmumford
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Jun 17, 2008
Are your console interfaces on the same network? We ran into a issue with the U2 release where the default behavior of HA was changed (or broken depending on your POV) and the HA agents are not all in a common subnet. There are some threads about this in the forums - it also is documented in the U2 release notes.

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

16. Aug 12, 2008 10:11 PM in response to: joncellini
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Aug 12, 2008
Console interfaces as in hosts? Bear with me, as I am the backup to our VMware environment while our point man is on vacation. All of our ESX servers are on the same subnet, how do I further delve into logs from to see what my exact issue is?

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

17. Aug 12, 2008 10:14 PM in response to: JohnTroyer
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May 1, 2008

This didn't affect me too badly. Been walking on eggshells all day hoping nothing happened that would require HA or migrating VMs.

For the benefit of other VMware newbies like myself here's what I did to get the patch working:

Downloaded the express update when it became available (late btw) and added it to my ftp server's patch depot. Update took a bit likely due to server load from everyone else wanting in as well. (See http://www.vmware.com/pdf/vi3_35/esx_3/r35/vi3_35_25_esxupdate.pdf if you are unfamiliar with esxupdate and patch depots).

While this all was downloaded I did an esxupdate -l query |grep ESX350-200806201-UG on both of my hosts to make sure the prerequisite patch was there. Also disabled HA on the cluster. I had already put DRS in manual mode early this morning.

After the patch was in my depot I did esxcfg-firewall --AllowOutgoing and then esxupdate -d <patch depot URL> scan to make sure it saw the new update.

One of my hosts only had 3 VMs running on it by chance so I shut down those 3 guests, set the hosts to enter maintenance mode and then ran esxupdate -d <patch depot> --test update to make sure all everything looked right on that host. When everything returned OK I did esxupdate -d <patch depot> update and waited for everything to finish. Per the patch instructions I restarted the management interface and then did esxcfg-firewall --BlockOutgoing . I then restarted the esx host that was in maintenance mode from VirtualCenter for good measure.

When this host came back up I took it out of maintenance mode, let it sit for a little bit while I checked logs for any errors. Then migrated all guest VMs from other unpatched host over to this patched host and then followed the same steps to patch the unpatched.

After both were patched I re-enabled DRS and balanced the host loads a bit. After waiting a few more minutes and checking logs some more I re-enabled HA which came up just fine.

Everything seem to work fine and basically I just RTFM on the directions to get everything to work. I didn't try patching with Update Manager as I've never really had that great of luck with it.

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

18. Aug 12, 2008 10:25 PM in response to: JohnTroyer
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Dec 12, 2005
Can someone please explain to me why a "FREE" product has a friggin expiration date? It just does NOT MAKE SENSE!

Even worse, is a Licensed version one has paid for has this expiration "BUG".
YES IT IS A BUG!

QA missed the big fat cock roach in their process.

Here's what I want. I want install Enterprise binaries that has NO expiration. If our agency paid in excess of $15,000.00 to license our servers (Enterprise version) the friggin thing should never ever expire.

I feel like VMware does not trust it's customers eventhough they have already spent their thousands of dollars on their product. MS 2003 Server does not expire does it? NO.

Enough with this garbage about software piracy and protecting your product, the same old boring played out song. If we paid for it it should never expire. VMWare's method is basically saying "you're all pirates and eventhough you paid up the a(insert letters here), I still don't trust you worth doodoo".

That's why this issue is here.

Hmmmm....
This scenario should sound familiar to VMware, remember the "FREE" vmware server release?....tick....tick....tick.... Edit

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

19. Aug 13, 2008 2:33 AM in response to: rmumford
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Nov 29, 2007
Applyed the patch to a test server today using esxupdate. The host was in maintenance mode. After applying the patch i'll run service mgmt-vmware restart and try'd to exit maintenance mode from VC. The error "The session is not authenticated" pop up.
Rebooted the server and was then allowed to exit maintenance mode.
Then i'll enabled NTP again, and the error "The operation is not allowed in the current state" pop up. After pressing OK twice ntp was up and running.
Now everything is working ok, but im not sure why those errormessages pop up.....

Edit.
Did not remove host from cluster, just disabled HA/DRS. If I remove the host from the cluster there is no errormessages...
Lesson learned:)

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

20. Aug 13, 2008 12:16 AM in response to: JohnTroyer
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Jul 28, 2008
Applied patch through update manager, everything went smooth

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

21. Aug 13, 2008 12:46 AM in response to: JohnTroyer
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Jan 25, 2007

Hi,

we are located in germany and have 17 hosts with 75 VMs on it. We have our productive SAP-System on the VMware and even our productive MS Exchange System. We have the release 103908, but i must say we were not really affected. As our machines are productive ones there are never powerd off or suspended. Therefore our VMs worked fine the whole time. This morning I remediated the first host to install the fix with Updatemanager and everything went fine. It took about 10 minutes. My luck was, that one of the hosts had no VMs on it. So i did this one first. Afterward I was able to migrate VMs from the other hosts to the patched host. So I will patch all 17 hosts without any downtime.

Sure, It was a really big failure from VMware to publish this bugy code, but in my opinion it was not as bad as most people are writing here. I think VMware has soved the problem proffesionally.

Kind regards

Patrick

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

22. Aug 13, 2008 1:07 AM in response to: JohnTroyer
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Jun 1, 2005
Patched Esx3i with update manager.

All went fine...

Maish
Systems Administrator & Virtualization Architect

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

23. Aug 13, 2008 1:36 AM in response to: ezhosting
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Apr 13, 2007

Had you set the time back, before your were updating with the update manager?

Because I'm getting an error that the metadata are missing when I want to scan a host.

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

24. Aug 13, 2008 1:38 AM in response to: Melfice
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Jan 25, 2007
No, I had the whole farm the whole time on ntp.

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

25. Aug 13, 2008 1:39 AM in response to: COS
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Jul 14, 2008

Hello,

can someone explain me how to apply the patch to the esx hosts, if maintenance mode is needed but vmotion does not work, so the guest machines cannot moved away from the host? I started the update process, using the update manager, but now one host wants to go into maintenance mode and tries to move all guest machines away, but all theses tries run into timeouts. I cancelled the update process now and i'm still waiting for the cancel process is finished

best regards

Thomas

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

26. Aug 13, 2008 1:40 AM in response to: COS
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Dec 6, 2006

Can someone please explain to me why a "FREE" product has a friggin expiration date? It just does NOT MAKE SENSE!

Dude calm down! Your second line says it ALL. IT's A BUG! OK, we got it. They didn't elminate you FREE users, they did it to ALL products, it was a mistake. They fixed their mistake, let's move on, K?


We can worry about the fall out later.


MS has made some major screw ups, Intel has had more than their share of debacles, I can think of several other companies that have made other errors, no body is perfect.


The patch is out, it fixes the problem, and we don't need to know how much you paid for licenses... if that's ALL you paid you got off cheap!

The problem is fixed, let's just leave it at that. We don't need to start bashing VM Ware now. BELIEVE ME, internally VM WARE is MORE upset about this than you are TRUST ME!


They are FULLY aware of the impact this has had, and they worked to get it fixed, let's not point ANY more fingers. There has been enough commotion for one day, thanks.

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

27. Aug 13, 2008 1:44 AM in response to: JohnTroyer
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Apr 22, 2008
Just installed the express patch and it seems to work fine...

As we only have 2 ESX hosts with 15 VMs I had to shut down less important VMs (like WSUS etc.), set back the time on the first host to use VMotion, updated the second host, migrated the VMs again, updated the first host and finally migrated the VMs back to the normal state and restarted the machines I had shut down.

Our Update Manager doesn't work at the moment (I'll open a support case for that...) so I did the update using esxupdate :8}

Regards,
Bastian

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

28. Aug 13, 2008 1:47 AM in response to: supporti
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Dec 6, 2006
can someone explain me how to apply the patch to the esx hosts, if maintenance mode

OK, here is what you do. Download the patch to your PC.


Then use winscp to upload the patch to your ESX host (to the /tmp folder). --download winscp:http://winscp.net/eng/index.php--


Then you unzip the patch from the command line (unzip 'patchname').


That will extract some files and folders. cd to that folder.


run: esxupdate update from that same folder.


Now your patch should apply itself, and I don't think you need to do anything with the host. Just run the patch (It doesn't need to be in maintenance mode) and that's it. You are done. Once you patch ALL your hosts, they should vmotion and the problem is now fixed.

Re: ESX 3.5U2 Patch experiences?

29. Aug 13, 2008 1:47 AM in response to: supporti
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Jan 25, 2007

Hello,

your need one host free of VMs und have to fix this host first. Perhaps you can power down a view not so important VMs? After you have one host fixed you can use the vmotion to fix the other host. On me farm with 17 hosts everythink worked fine with the update manager. I had the luck, that one host was without VMs so I could start directly.

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