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Click to view CLowe's profile Enthusiast 40 posts since
Apr 13, 2007
Since this is the thread we're all hanging out in, let's get a poll going on how big of a headache this actually was for you:

1) How big is your virtual infrastructure and what advanced VMWare features do you use?
4 hosts - 75 vm's - DRS - VMotion
2) How many minutes of downtime did your production/test environment suffer?
0:00
3) Are all your VMs back up and running now?
Yes
4) What solution have you employed? And any other relevant information.
Waiting for the patch. Will use the date regression if necessary.

I'll go first.

1) 5 ESX hosts with 70 VMs. I use DRS and VMotion.

2 and 3) No downtime as I haven't shut down anything.

4) I expect to be able to wait until the end of the week when paches come through update manager. If a VM did by chance get shut down I will use the date reversal fix.

Philip Arnason

Click to view Tibmeister's profile Enthusiast 79 posts since
Jan 9, 2006
8 Host servers (7 active at this time)
70 VM's (57 Production)

0 downtime - As soon as I found out, I put the word out to my group to not touch a VM until we learned more.

Still in the planning phase, waiting for more news from VMware. I have fallback plans in place using established DR procedures, and do not want to panick.
Click to view mcowger's profile Virtuoso 2,058 posts since
Aug 22, 2007
1) 24 hosts, 205 VMs, DRS, VMotion, HA
2) 0:00
3) yes, never went down
4) None - we dont reboot VMs very often.

--Matt
Click to view rhunter's profile Novice 5 posts since
Jan 7, 2008
1) 5 esx3.5u2 hosts ~40-50 vms, iSCSI and FCP SAN environments

2) all day

3) I unfortunately rebooted the esx host that had my virtual center server VM thinking it would fix this issue. I then read the bug report.

4) date change workaround and disabling of NTP settings in my automation to prevent the date from being set > August 11
Click to view Jasemccarty's profile Champion 3,806 posts since
Apr 5, 2005
1. 6 Hosts (8 way single core/32GB Ram), 1 VirtualCenter Server, 330 VM's (all production)
2. Zero Downtime
3. Still Going
4. Haven't upgraded to 3.5 U anything yet.

Jase McCarty
http://www.jasemccarty.com
Co-Author of VMware ESX Essentials in the Virtual Data Center
(ISBN:1420070274) from Auerbach
Click to view danzbassman's profile Novice 9 posts since
Jun 19, 2007
Wow! We have the same problem. We definitely dodged a bullet though. We have a production VM we usually reboot each morning due to a problematic DLL. We didn't today. When I read this I tried to power on some downed VMs. They won't power up. This is a serious problem for us.

We have 4 ESX hosts, 75 VMs.
We use DRS, though I've set it to the most conservative setting for now.

No downtime so far, but I can't bring up VMs that were powered off.
Click to view DSTAVERT's profile Virtuoso 2,388 posts since
Nov 30, 2003

This isn't the first time Beta time bombs have been left behind. They seldom live long past the release date so these things can be somewhat anticipated and planned for. Having a patch policy of applying patches based on date or without thorough understanding of what they apply to is very poor policy. Relying on some company for the safety of your data WILL get you in trouble and over and over. A good compliance auditor will tell you that it isn't just about applying patches. They MUST solve a problem that YOU have and the security risk must be something that you are at risk for or don't apply them.

The old saw "If it ain't broke don't fix it" somewhat applies although now you must truely understand what the broke is.


Click to view rlabhart's profile Lurker 3 posts since
Feb 27, 2008

1) 33 Hosts/360Guests/DRS/HA/iScsi/FCP

2) 0 Downtime

3) Yes

4)Don't update until fix available.

Click to view Anton V Zhbankov's profile Champion 2,871 posts since
May 26, 2008
There's no way to find this problem. QA can't do exhaustive testing just because there are many ways to implement functionality and there is almost infinite number of possible tests. I think engineer who hardcoded 12th of August and forgot to remove in release already got his "prize" from management.
Click to view gadeem0517's profile Lurker 2 posts since
Jul 17, 2007
I don't know about the rest of you, but I am expecting some very expensive SWAG at VMWorld next month!
Click to view DaCLaxton's profile Lurker 1 posts since
Aug 12, 2008
New SAN and two ESXi Servers - 72K
Migrating 7 of 35 VM's from GSX to ESX - 3 days

Training IT Staff and finding out there is a bug when trying to create a new VM - PRICELESS
Click to view N2IT.DK's profile Lurker 1 posts since
Aug 12, 2008

Yes, upgraded exactly past midnight on the 12th and had this problem appear immidiately after the upgrade, the error message looked like this.

This product has expired. Be sure that your machine's date and time are set correctly. There is a more recent version available at the VMware Web site: "http://www.vmware.com/info?id=4".

VMware this just isnt good enough...

I had to reinstall ESX version 3.5 64607 to get going again...

Click to view domac's profile Lurker 3 posts since
Aug 12, 2008

Reports of problems with ESX 3.5 U1 with the following 3.5 Update 2 patches applied: ESX350-200806201-UG

So, does anyone know what the build number would be if you've got 3.5 U1 with that patch applied? I don't normally maintain the patching on our VM environment and just want to make sure this isn't affecting or won't affect my production environment.

Oh, and I agree, VMWare could have at least sent us an email regarding this issue. I'm not trying to flame or get into it too much, but I believe that would have been good customer service. Allowing me to potentially do some work on my machines and maybe or maybe not find this problem on my own seems very much like a tactic to 'handle' the problem through obscurity.

Thanks,

D.


Click to view steven_catania's profile Enthusiast 37 posts since
Oct 3, 2006

Thanks everyone for the input. Unfortunately we were bitten also. We rolled back the time and are operational.

Steve

Click to view rjb2's profile Enthusiast 64 posts since
Dec 20, 2007
Free Admission would be nice.

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